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Grateful.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>175</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3617034252175343166</id><published>2012-02-16T13:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-02-16T13:59:06.363-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Independence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baloch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nawaz Sharif'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baluchistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Slaves'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mengel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bugti'/><title type='text'>No body seems to be serious about Balochistan!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mgUphKbMzZE/Tz10u77aCkI/AAAAAAAAAus/auKb6mYDmw8/s1600/Baloch+kid.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="214" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mgUphKbMzZE/Tz10u77aCkI/AAAAAAAAAus/auKb6mYDmw8/s320/Baloch+kid.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-size: x-large;"&gt;Placate the Baloch and sideline the sardars...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Already late but it is time to take political action and not succumb like Nawaz Sharif in front of Sardars...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Creative thinking is the need of the hour. Love not hate is the need of the hour. Statesmanship and not vendetta is the need of the hour. Our Baloch brothers our co-citizens and our compatriots who have been badly let down. In the desire to please the sardars &lt;b&gt;we completely forgot about the real Baloch&lt;/b&gt;, the son of the soil and our co-citizen, our compatriot, our brother. We both got freedom on the same day August 14, 1947. We have to go back to the basics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;We were not freed so that we be the slaves of some one else. &lt;/b&gt;I was infuriated the other day when in a forum some one was of the opinion that we must pay sardars money &amp;nbsp;like the Brits did to buy their loyalty. He was also of the opinion that Balochs were the slaves of Sardars. I took strong objection to it. They are no body's slaves but equal citizens of a proud country called Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Balochs are no body's slaves. &lt;b&gt;They are our equal co-citizens and they shall remain like that&lt;/b&gt;. We have paid money for the past 60 years to sardars what do we have on hand? All the money eaten up by the sardars, no development what so ever, arms in every body's hands and total anarchy. No safety, no security, no schooling, no hospitals, no roads, nothing. Whatever the Federation gives Balochistan is consumed by the Sardars. Enough is enough. Pakistan has to talk tough to the Sardars and befriend the Baloch. All policies should be aimed to benefit the common Baloch not Sardars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless of the threats &lt;b&gt;development of Baluchistan should start right away&lt;/b&gt;. We need to give them safety and security. The State shall provide that while every body including the sardars surrender their weapons. Otherwise there will be no safety and security to do any thing. The process of education and hospitals and infrastructure development must start now without any delay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is time to get into&lt;b&gt; political negotiations with the Baloch&lt;/b&gt; or their elected representatives. A Baloch means a Baloch on the street, the common Pakistani in residing in Balochistan. Do not talk to the Sardars they have failed the people of Baluchistan miserably. If Pakistan talks to the sardars, then it is the death knell to the relationship between the Balochis and Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bring the Baloch in the fold of Pakistani fraternity.&lt;/b&gt; They have no problem with us. They are there all over Pakistan. Their rights have been usurped by the Sardars and not Pakistan please understand that. I wish I could write in the local Baloch dialect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3617034252175343166?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3617034252175343166/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3617034252175343166' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3617034252175343166'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3617034252175343166'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2012/02/no-body-seems-to-be-serious-about.html' title='No body seems to be serious about Balochistan!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mgUphKbMzZE/Tz10u77aCkI/AAAAAAAAAus/auKb6mYDmw8/s72-c/Baloch+kid.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6902127833275327985</id><published>2012-02-10T00:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-02-10T00:50:36.742-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='white wash'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='England'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket in Dubai'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='England Test team'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Clean sweep'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dubai'/><title type='text'>Pakistan beats England 3-0 in Test Cricket in Dubai</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--wuDdoUm-tU/TzTWG_UExKI/AAAAAAAAAuk/3UJK-HZ6-7g/s1600/Pakistan+Whitewash+England+2012.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="232" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--wuDdoUm-tU/TzTWG_UExKI/AAAAAAAAAuk/3UJK-HZ6-7g/s320/Pakistan+Whitewash+England+2012.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wow what a white wash...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-size: large;"&gt;Pakistan Cricket has come of age finally!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #444444;"&gt;I have always maintained when Pakistan decides to win there is no team that can defeat them despite their batting weakness. If one thought that the first test was an aberration the second test &amp;nbsp;was certainly not. Here Pakistan was winning within 3 days and India down under getting a drubbing and conceding a clean sweep to Australia with some tests within three days. The last test no body thought can be won when there were all out in the first innings for 99. But then what a comeback! The clean sweep and a white wash of England was no aberration. Seems like Pakistan cricket has come of age finally. Rest later.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6902127833275327985?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6902127833275327985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6902127833275327985' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6902127833275327985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6902127833275327985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2012/02/wow-what-white-wash.html' title='Pakistan beats England 3-0 in Test Cricket in Dubai'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--wuDdoUm-tU/TzTWG_UExKI/AAAAAAAAAuk/3UJK-HZ6-7g/s72-c/Pakistan+Whitewash+England+2012.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-1712958924711603375</id><published>2012-01-24T07:37:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T07:37:20.931-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Nawaz Sharif drama of Mansoor Ijaz...</title><content type='html'>Today Mansoor Ijaz has refused to come to Pakistan. The nation has started wondering what is Nawaz Sharif up to? He is always locked inunproductive hate, vengeance and rocking the ship activities. He probably thinks only for himself never for the people of Pakistan.People are suffering. He never takes up those issues that affect people. What does he care he has loads of money.Rest later inshallah.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-1712958924711603375?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/1712958924711603375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=1712958924711603375' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/1712958924711603375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/1712958924711603375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2012/01/nawaz-sharif-drama-of-mansoor-ijaz.html' title='Nawaz Sharif drama of Mansoor Ijaz...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7251980076108586532</id><published>2012-01-07T06:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T07:09:00.920-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TTP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Killers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tahreek e Taliban Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Taliban'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jamath e Islami'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nato'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Terrorists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religious parties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gruesome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Murders'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spokesmen of the devils.'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='US'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><title type='text'>Gruesome murders but we tolerate those who fight and kill our soldiers...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g9ac3_yc1w0/TwhbXTfWiYI/AAAAAAAAAuc/GGmSxmW86dE/s1600/Soldiers+abducted+and+killed+by+TTP.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g9ac3_yc1w0/TwhbXTfWiYI/AAAAAAAAAuc/GGmSxmW86dE/s320/Soldiers+abducted+and+killed+by+TTP.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: large;"&gt;Why does the media not make an issue of these gruesome deaths of our own men?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US of &amp;nbsp;Nato did not kill them. So forget about them. That is our media and the political spokesmen of the devils. Did you hear any mention of it except may be casually in press. Sure you may not have seen it on electronic media. Seems like an invisible hand managing our media. Rest later.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7251980076108586532?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7251980076108586532/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7251980076108586532' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7251980076108586532'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7251980076108586532'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2012/01/gruesome-murders-but-we-tolerate-those.html' title='Gruesome murders but we tolerate those who fight and kill our soldiers...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g9ac3_yc1w0/TwhbXTfWiYI/AAAAAAAAAuc/GGmSxmW86dE/s72-c/Soldiers+abducted+and+killed+by+TTP.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3531850893205411579</id><published>2011-12-21T13:36:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T13:36:25.092-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The energy crunch and solutions...</title><content type='html'>The solutions are neither that difficult nor too expensive...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3531850893205411579?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3531850893205411579/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3531850893205411579' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3531850893205411579'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3531850893205411579'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/12/energy-crunch-and-solutions.html' title='The energy crunch and solutions...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-589708242523671224</id><published>2011-11-29T00:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-29T13:40:13.478-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sherry Rahman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ABC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hussein Haroon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nato'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='US Pakistan Relations'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Permanent representative at UN'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='US Pakistan conflict'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='war on terror'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan ambassador to UN'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='US'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CBS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CBS News'/><title type='text'>Listen to Mr. Haroon, Pak ambassador to UN...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jvWelrod3aA/TtVLXxntNPI/AAAAAAAAAuM/EpMv3RqMChs/s1600/Pakistan_ambassador_2+UN.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jvWelrod3aA/TtVLXxntNPI/AAAAAAAAAuM/EpMv3RqMChs/s320/Pakistan_ambassador_2+UN.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lT6KC5Yv8XM/TtVMOWiKoSI/AAAAAAAAAuU/9CoEoY5J6pw/s1600/UN+security+council+Hussein+Haroon.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="228" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lT6KC5Yv8XM/TtVMOWiKoSI/AAAAAAAAAuU/9CoEoY5J6pw/s320/UN+security+council+Hussein+Haroon.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000; font-family: georgia, serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;This guy is amazing. Wish we had more like him... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: georgia, serif;"&gt;What ideas, what aplomb, what delivery, what style, what articulation, what language - wonderful. I have no adjectives to praise him enough. We may differ with him here and there but that does not matter. Listen to him. We are the world biggest Peace Makers. Just listen to the guy and feel good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000cc; font-family: georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7383599n&amp;amp;tag=mncol" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/video/&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;watch/?id=7383599n&amp;amp;tag=mncol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;If only we had the other two of his stature. They look like little informed minions in front of him really. I am talking of Hina Rabbani Khar - the Foreign Minister whose only credentials is her feudalism and Ms Sherry Rahman's credentials the consistent loyalty not exactly to the country but the party, one who chose to stick on despite all rejections. Just imagine if the trio was of the stature of Hussein Haroon.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote" style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;US version of Nato attack:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="gmail_quote"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7389863n&amp;amp;tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/video/&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;watch/?id=7389863n&amp;amp;tag=&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;cbsnewsMainColumnArea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-589708242523671224?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/589708242523671224/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=589708242523671224' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/589708242523671224'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/589708242523671224'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/11/listen-to-mr-haroon-pak-ambassador-to.html' title='Listen to Mr. Haroon, Pak ambassador to UN...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jvWelrod3aA/TtVLXxntNPI/AAAAAAAAAuM/EpMv3RqMChs/s72-c/Pakistan_ambassador_2+UN.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7678166683120265610</id><published>2011-11-23T03:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-29T13:51:05.698-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Altaf Hussain'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guns'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Illegal Weapons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zulfiqar Mirza'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pir Mazhar ul Haq'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Manzoor Wassan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lying on holy Quran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='perjury'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Altaf'/><title type='text'>Pir Mazhar ul Haq nails Zulfiqar Mirza lies...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjAbrAr00u8/Ts42VSjY7oI/AAAAAAAAAuE/9UNESa6f5g0/s1600/Zulfiqar%2BMirza.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5678535919546199682" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjAbrAr00u8/Ts42VSjY7oI/AAAAAAAAAuE/9UNESa6f5g0/s200/Zulfiqar%2BMirza.jpg" style="cursor: hand; cursor: pointer; float: left; height: 150px; margin: 0 10px 10px 0; width: 200px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kuhShNbx8-w/Ts4wpdMe3nI/AAAAAAAAAt4/N_BCLBPsqKo/s1600/zulfiqar-mirza-the-don1%2Bdisplay%2Bof%2Bweapons.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5678529668930526834" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kuhShNbx8-w/Ts4wpdMe3nI/AAAAAAAAAt4/N_BCLBPsqKo/s400/zulfiqar-mirza-the-don1%2Bdisplay%2Bof%2Bweapons.jpg" style="cursor: hand; cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 278px; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; width: 400px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #990000; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;Pir Mazhar ul Haq finally speaks up and tells all... exonerates Altaf of the Zulfiqar allegation...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;I am surprised not even a fraction of &lt;b&gt;air time&lt;/b&gt; of press coverage is given to Pir Mazhar Ul Haq who has finally spoken up and told the truth and categorically told the world what happened when he was present with Zulfiqar Mirza when they met Altaf Hussain.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In no uncertain terms he has said that &lt;b&gt;Altaf never spoke of breaking up Pakistan&lt;/b&gt; and he said this in front of God. He also said that Zulfiqar Mirza should ask forgiveness of Allah for lying under oath of the holy book, holding it on his head, although in Sindh it is not considered good and only thieves are required to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zulfiqar Mirza says he wants to&lt;b&gt; save Pakistan&lt;/b&gt;. May one ask from whom and how? How can you possibly be saving Pakistan when he is constantly making noises of creating hatred between citizens. When you divide people you create problems to the extent that it divides. What are you doing Mr. Zulfiqar? Please stop it if you mean what you say. Pakistan bachana, saving Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He plays the &lt;b&gt;Sindh card&lt;/b&gt;, the &lt;b&gt;Shia card&lt;/b&gt; or any card to get even with those who he had differences with of personal nature. Nothing was for substantive issues or any&lt;b&gt; structural reforms&lt;/b&gt; or so. He did not do this for better&lt;b&gt; governance&lt;/b&gt; or better &lt;b&gt;law and order&lt;/b&gt; or better &lt;b&gt;policies &lt;/b&gt;for that matter. The law and order was the worst in his tenure. People were robbed and looted at gun points and killed the maximum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Leaders &lt;/b&gt;have people's issues at heart not personal issues. He talks of issuing hundreds of thousands of &lt;b&gt;guns&lt;/b&gt; and talks of openly&lt;b&gt; killing people in thousands&lt;/b&gt; if given a chance of ministership again. He wants to be the policeman, the judge, the jury and the hangman. See this videos and comment on this blog and these videos below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Zulfiqar in his tenure made &lt;b&gt;no reforms &lt;/b&gt;to ensure that &lt;b&gt;dacoits &lt;/b&gt;were caught or mobile and purse &lt;b&gt;snatechers &lt;/b&gt;nabbed all at gunpoint. Every single person in Karachi has been looted at gun point one time or the other. What did he do? Nothing. He did not go after them as he was busy in just putting down some citizens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instead of making it difficult for one to acquire a weapon he made it easy&lt;/b&gt; and says he will do much more of the same. You did not even make it impossible for any body to buy used, second hand mobiles which would have made snatching mobiles useless. You did nothing. These are people's issues not your seat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone in the police knows where the&lt;b&gt; ransom guys&lt;/b&gt; come from. But you do not take action because you want to pitch them against the people of Karachi. So you took no action. You never chased them and made no plans to stop them. You &lt;b&gt;never took your job seriously&lt;/b&gt;. Ransom goes on with gay abandon. As a home minister you were a total failure. What are you trying to achieve by this defamation and vindictive politics sain? For God's sake be positive. I am not talking of blood group.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;In Sindh it is not good to take oath on Quran:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000cc;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHA0gjZ9-_E"&gt;&lt;b&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHA0gjZ9-_E&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000cc;"&gt;Please listen to Manzoor Wassan in Lekin, see how Zulfiqar Mirza blames one and all:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000cc;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRIMYMlCv28&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRIMYMlCv28&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Pir Mazhar ul Haque exposes Zulfiqar Mirza:&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000cc;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP1qN6fMXDU" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;v=BP1qN6fMXDU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Zul Mirza's zahar afshani: Given maximum air time for months on end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #0000cc;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478CweGTv2M" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;watch?v=478CweGTv2M&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;Look how much he cares for the law: See his language. Just because he is kicked out of the ministry now he is taking revenge with the country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJagNWor0a0&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJagNWor0a0&amp;amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;Kamran Khan and Zulfiqar Mirza&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi-u-7_S-Ls"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi-u-7_S-Ls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;Also watch the accomplice &lt;b&gt;Sharjeel Memon's&lt;/b&gt; interview:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pkaffairs.com/Play_Show_Sawal-Yeh-Hai-19th-November-2011_17961"&gt;http://www.pkaffairs.com/Play_Show_Sawal-Yeh-Hai-19th-November-2011_17961&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_eyFiCSHhA&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_eyFiCSHhA&amp;amp;feature=related&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7678166683120265610?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7678166683120265610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7678166683120265610' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7678166683120265610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7678166683120265610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/11/pir-mazhar-ul-haq-nails-zulfiqar-mirza.html' title='Pir Mazhar ul Haq nails Zulfiqar Mirza lies...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjAbrAr00u8/Ts42VSjY7oI/AAAAAAAAAuE/9UNESa6f5g0/s72-c/Zulfiqar%2BMirza.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2732248804286092413</id><published>2011-11-17T23:43:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-17T23:54:08.654-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Army'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ISI'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zardari'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Osama Binladin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Civilian Government'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike Mullen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hussain Haqqani'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Washington Post'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mansoor Ijaz'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='UBL'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Military'/><title type='text'>Memo to Mike Mullen - if true it is dangerous. Army is not going to like it.</title><content type='html'>&lt;h1 property="dc.title" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 4px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 1.2em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;This is an article from Washington Post. Thinker thinks that such messages if at all are given orally and not through a memo to have a record. Seems highly incredible. But if it has happened it shows how stupid the handlers have been...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;h1 property="dc.title" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 4px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 2.5em; line-height: 1.2em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;In Pakistan, a deep civil-military divide&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="relative primary-slot padding-top img-border photo-wrapper photo-wrapper" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; position: relative; font-family: arial; font-size: 10px; line-height: 10px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/11/17/Foreign/Advance/Images/123921164(1).jpg" alt="" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; 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But real power remains in the hands of the military, which has ruled the South Asian nation for half its 64-year existence and was livid after the U.S. operation against bin Laden. Though both the army and the civilian government receive billions of dollars in American assistance, the military views the United States, and its support for Zardari’s unpopular administration, with deep distrust.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;That attitude is widespread in Pakistan, where patriotism is equated with support for the military and the United States is often seen more as bully than friend.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;Against that backdrop, a &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/5ea9b804-f351-11e0-b11b-00144feab49a,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F5ea9b804-f351-11e0-b11b-00144feab49a.html&amp;amp;_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F601109bc-1139-11e1-a95c-00144feabdc0.html" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;column published last month&lt;/a&gt; in the Financial Times has proved explosive. In it, Pakistani American businessman Mansoor Ijaz asserted that a senior Pakistani diplomat — whom he identified Thursday as Haqqani — asked him to help relay a request to the then-chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, to stop the military from staging a coup.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/documents/secret-pakistan-memo-to-adm-mike-mullen.html" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;memo&lt;/a&gt;, a copy of which was provided by Ijaz to The Washington Post, warns that a military takeover would result in “potentially the platform for far more rapid spread of al Qaeda’s brand of fanaticism and terror.” The upheaval in the wake of the bin Laden killing, it said, provided “a unique window of opportunity” for “civilians to gain the upper hand over army and intelligence directorates.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;It said that in exchange for U.S. “direct intervention” to convey a strong no-coup message to Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, leader of Pakistan’s military, a newly appointed civilian national security team would shepherd an independent investigation of the bin Laden matter and terminate any “active service officers” found to have been complicit in concealing the al-Qaeda leader.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;Pakistan, it said, would also move to hand over all remaining al-Qaeda leaders on its soil, as well as Taliban leader Mohammad Omar and Sirajuddin Haqqani of the Haqqani insurgent network. Alternatively, it could give “U.S. military forces a ‘green light’ to conduct the necessary operations to capture or kill them on Pakistani soil,” the memo said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 22px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1.5em; font-family: Georgia, serif; "&gt;It said the civilian government would eliminate “Section S” of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency, a unit that handles relations with insurgent groups; bring to justice the perpetrators of the 2008 terrorist attacks in Mumbai; and implement new measures to secure Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/article&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2732248804286092413?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2732248804286092413/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2732248804286092413' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2732248804286092413'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2732248804286092413'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/11/memo-to-mike-mullen-if-true-it-is.html' title='Memo to Mike Mullen - if true it is dangerous. 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font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&amp;amp;d=20111108&amp;amp;t=2&amp;amp;i=529260449&amp;amp;w=460&amp;amp;fh=&amp;amp;fw=&amp;amp;ll=&amp;amp;pl=&amp;amp;r=BTRE7A7132G00" border="0" alt="France's President Nicolas Sarkozy gestures towards President Obama during the G20 Summit of major world economies in Cannes, November 3, 2011. 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But the comments have since emerged on French websites and can be confirmed by Reuters.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_5"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;White House press secretary Jay Carney declined to comment on the conversation when asked by reporters traveling with Obama to an event in Philadelphia.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_6"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Obama's apparent failure to defend Netanyahu is likely to be leapt on by his Republican foes, who are looking to unseat him in next year's presidential election and have portrayed him as hostile to Israel, Washington's closest ally in the region.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_7"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Pushing Netanyahu risks alienating Israel's strong base of support among the U.S. public and in Congress.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_8"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Netanyahu's office declined to comment, but one of his deputies, Vice Premier Silvan Shalom, played down the episode.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_9"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;"Everyone talks about everyone. Sometimes even good friends say things about each other, certainly in such competitive professions," Shalom, a former foreign minister and rival of Netanyahu in the rightist Likud party, told Israel's Army Radio.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_10"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;"So you have to consider the main things. Is Obama a friend of Israel? Is Sarkozy a friend of Israel? Is their policy a consistent policy of support for Israel? The answer to all of these questions is affirmative and, as far as I'm concerned, that is what's important."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_11"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;PALESTINIAN WORRIES&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_12"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Obama and Netanyahu have had a rocky relationship as U.S. efforts to broker a Middle East peace deal have foundered, with the U.S. president openly criticizing Jewish settlement building in the occupied Palestinian territories.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_13"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;It was unclear why exactly Sarkozy had criticized Netanyahu. However, European diplomats have largely blamed Israel for the breakdown in peace talks and have expressed anger over Netanyahu's approval of large-scale settlement building.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_14"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;During their bilateral meeting on November 3, on the sidelines of the Cannes summit, Obama criticized Sarkozy's surprise decision to vote in favor of a Palestinian request for membership of the U.N. cultural heritage agency UNESCO.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_15"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;"I didn't appreciate your way of presenting things over the Palestinian membership of UNESCO. It weakened us. You should have consulted us, but that is now behind us," Obama was quoted as saying.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_0"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;The October 31 UNESCO vote marked a success for the Palestinians in their broader thrust for recognition as a sovereign state in the U.N. system -- a unilateral initiative fiercely opposed by Israel and the United States.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_1"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;As a result of the vote, Washington was compelled to halt its funding for UNESCO under a 1990s law that prohibits Washington from giving money to any U.N. body that grants membership to groups that do not have full, legal statehood.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_2"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Obama told Sarkozy that he was worried about the impact if Washington had to pull funding from other U.N. bodies such as the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization and the IAEA nuclear watchdog if the Palestinians gained membership there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_3"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;"You have to pass the message along to the Palestinians that they must stop this immediately," Obama said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_4"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;The day the conversation took place, the Palestinians announced that they would not seek membership of any other U.N. agency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span id="midArticle_5"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.6; "&gt;Sarkozy confirmed that &lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/places/france" title="Full coverage of France" style="color: rgb(0, 110, 151); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; outline-width: initial; outline-color: initial; "&gt;France&lt;/a&gt; would not take any unilateral decisions when the U.N. 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 304px; height: 171px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-thuhQXOyCA4/TrMSHdlK2HI/AAAAAAAAAts/Mqf5IqWCKZE/s400/_butt_asif_aamer_afp.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5670896275198498930" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory exposed...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;The entire spot fixing episode explains many things - how they used to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Kamran Akmal dropping catches in Australia, Afridi always failing to score when needed yet never dropped, Wasim Akram and Saeed Anwer throwing away the 1999 world cup final against Australia despite being the favorites. If PCB is serious in rooting out corruption in cricket which has been tolerated for far too long it will find many skeletons in the closets to deal with. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;Yet I feel for Asif the great McGrath of Asia and Salman Butt - what a talented batsman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/539063.html"&gt;http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/539063.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15573463"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15573463&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/03/amir-in-the-dock-as-sentencing-process-begins.html"&gt;http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/03/amir-in-the-dock-as-sentencing-process-begins.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-4234236001233599597?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/4234236001233599597/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=4234236001233599597' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4234236001233599597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4234236001233599597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/11/sad-day-for-cricket.html' title='Sad day for Cricket...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-thuhQXOyCA4/TrMSHdlK2HI/AAAAAAAAAts/Mqf5IqWCKZE/s72-c/_butt_asif_aamer_afp.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5043411821372272018</id><published>2011-11-01T21:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T00:23:35.308-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PPP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Minar e Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tahreek e Insaf'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Imran Khan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PTI'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Land Reforms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Punjab'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PMLN'/><title type='text'>Imran Khan - good show but where are the structural reforms...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-06CsKWMs0tg/TrDug9sEH5I/AAAAAAAAAtU/4HjahfocLw0/s1600/imran-khan-420x0.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 240px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-06CsKWMs0tg/TrDug9sEH5I/AAAAAAAAAtU/4HjahfocLw0/s400/imran-khan-420x0.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5670294180942061458" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Free the people of Pakistan by land reforms...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have indeed gathered people. You put up an excellent show. Expectations are aroused. But where is the beef, where are the Structural Reforms? If you in your manifesto do not have Structural Reforms then you will find the same old faces in the parliament. You don't seem to have an idea how to change the status quo. Let me venture to guide you. Do not worry about winning or losing. If you are good in policies you will win.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that you have a chance consider what change can one make? That is possible with structural reforms. Where are they? No where. So first Imran Khan should make a good agenda for himself. The most important agenda is freedom that has so far not touched us - not at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;People of India were not freed in 1947 but 1n1951/52 when land reforms were announced. These land reforms did not allow anybody to have more than 56 acres of land. The excess land was distributed among the landless poor.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The land lords, vaderas, choudhries and sardars were undone with one stroke. If Imran Khan should do something big he must do something like this. Start with land reforms, start with restricting unlimited land holdings. What is this patwari you were talking about? No that is not the right path. Bring in legislation for rural land ceiling and implement it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;You will free the people of Pakistan. Distribute the excess land among the landless poor. They want a leader who gives something to them. You be the one Imran Khan. 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margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;What does Pakistan really want in Afghanistan? That question has become all the more urgent since Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, accused Pakistan of being indirectly responsible for last week's attack on our embassy in Kabul. Reports of a second possible attack, on Sunday, on the building alleged to house the local CIA station will, no doubt, fuel further speculation. Assessing Pakistan's interests in Afghanistan through the prism of honesty and realpolitik rather than wishful thinking may be the only way we're going to get out of this messy war.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;For a start, we need to understand that Pakistan intends to bring down the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, even if that means taking on its sometime U.S. ally. Pakistan hates Karzai out of a conviction that he has made common cause with Pakistan's strategic nemesis, India, and a suspicion that the Afghan leader intends to harm Pakistan's strategic interests in other ways. And, of course, the hatred is mutual. Rightly or wrongly, Karzai believes that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) assassinated his father, and would do the same to him given half a chance.&lt;span class="see" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: normal normal bold 12px/155% georgia, arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(204, 0, 0); display: block; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2039321,00.html" target="_blank" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; "&gt;(Read what Pakistan really envisions as an endgame for Afghanistan.)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;A second misunderstanding we need to dispense with is that the ISI is somehow a rogue organization outside of Pakistan's chain of command and is pursuing a pro-Taliban agenda all its own. The Pakistani army can remove the ISI director, General Ahmad Shuja Pasha — or any other officer of the organization — at a moment's notice. So, if the ISI did indeed sponsor an attack on the U.S. embassy in Kabul, such a step should be assumed to have been taken with the consent of the power that be in Pakistan, i.e. the military establishment. The idea that to make our Pakistan problem go away, the ISI needs to be "cleaned up" is naive. The Pakistani actions that make life difficult for the U.S. in Afghanistan are driven by a clear-sighted strategic agenda.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;As for the Pakistani proxy accused of carrying out the embassy attack, the Haqqani network, we need to understand why Pakistan won't give it up or act against it as the U.S. demands. With up to 15,000 fighters and effective control of large parts of eastern Afghanistan and Pakistan's North Waziristan, the Haqqanis are an indispensible party to a peace settlement in Afghanistan — and a vehicle for securing Pakistan's interests in that country after the U.S. withdraws. To sever relations with the Haqqanis now would mean Pakistan giving up a large degree of influence in Afghanistan after the war is over.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;The U.S. has for years demanded that Pakistan mount a sweeping military offensive in North Waziristan to destroy the Haqqanis, but even if they were so inclined, the fact is that the Pakistani military has only ever been able to control the main roads in North Waziristan. The Pakistani army is incapable of occupying and holding this territory, no matter how much money we offer or how dire the threats we make.&lt;span class="see" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: normal normal bold 12px/155% georgia, arial, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(204, 0, 0); display: block; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/04/18/does-pakistan-really-want-a-stable-afghanistan/" target="_blank" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); cursor: pointer; outline-style: none; "&gt;(See whether Pakistan really wants a stable Afghanistan.)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;At the core of the problem stands a simple proposition: Pakistan doesn't trust us with Afghanistan — and from Islamabad's perspective, not without cause. We took a strategic decision to invade a country central to their national-security doctrine without seriously consulting them, preferring to think in terms of an Afghanistan of our dreams. Nor did we take into account their strategic interests and the proxies through which they have pursued them. The Soviet Union made the same mistake when it invaded Afghanistan in 1979.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;Having failed to prevail a decade later, we now have two choices, neither of them particularly attractive to Washington. We can attempt to destroy the Haqqani base in North Waziristan by invading Pakistan. But to do that effectively would require more troops than we currently have in Afghanistan. Doing so would obviously destroy whatever relations we still have with Pakistan, with profoundly dangerous consequences in Afghanistan and far beyond.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;Alternatively, we could hash out a settlement with Pakistan, which would inevitably mean accepting the Haqqanis and easing out Karzai in any political settlement to the conflict. Such a deal would also potentially bring in Afghanistan's other neighbor with real strategic interests in the country — Iran. Iran can be unpredictable, but it's by no means certain it would accept true Pakistani-American collusion in Afghanistan. In the mid-'90s, Iran was all but at war with the Taliban, and if Iran isn't consulted on a settlement, it could play the spoiler.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;Accepting Pakistan's postconflict agenda and backing off on the Haqqanis at Karzai's expense is too bitter a pill for Washington to swallow in an election year, so we'll muddle through for another year. But when the U.S. finally leaves, don't be surprised to see the Haqqanis in Kabul.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;Baer, a former Middle East CIA field officer, is &lt;/i&gt;TIME.com&lt;i&gt;'s intelligence columnist and the author of &lt;/i&gt;See No Evil&lt;i&gt; and &lt;/i&gt;The Devil We Know: Dealing with the New Iranian Superpower&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; 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"&gt;Why Islam took a violent and intolerant turn in Pakistan, and where it might lead&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;p class="ec-article-info" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); clear: both; float: left; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Mar 31st 2011 | &lt;em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; 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background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;“TYPICAL Blackwater operative,” says a senior military officer, gesturing towards a muscular Westerner with a shaven head and tattoos, striding through the lobby of Islamabad’s Marriott Hotel. Pakistanis believe their country is thick with Americans working for private security companies contracted to the Central Intelligence Agency; and indeed, the physique of some of the guests at the Marriott hardly suggests desk-bound jobs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Pakistan is not a country for those of a nervous disposition. Even the Marriott lacks the comforting familiarity of the standard international hotel, for the place was blown up in 2008 by a lorry loaded with explosives. The main entrance is no longer accessible from the road; guards check under the bonnets of approaching cars, and guests are dropped off at a screening centre a long walk away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="content-image-float clearfix" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; float: right; clear: both; width: 290px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/04/02/as/20110402_asm900.gif" alt=" " style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; " /&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Some 30,000 people have been killed in the past four years in terrorism, sectarianism and army attacks on the terrorists. The number of attacks in Pakistan’s heartland is on the rise, and Pakistani terrorists have gone global in their ambitions. This year there have been unprecedented displays of fundamentalist religious and anti-Western feeling. All this might be expected in Somalia or Yemen, but not in a country of great sophistication which boasts an elite educated at Oxbridge and the Ivy League, which produces brilliant novelists, artists and scientists, and is armed with nuclear weapons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="related-items" style="margin-top: 4px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 15px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 3px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 3px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(170, 170, 170); float: right; clear: both; width: 168px; background-position: initial initial; 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"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/topics/war-and-conflict" class="related-inline-topics" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(8, 82, 109); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;War and conflict&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; 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Mr Taseer was killed by his guard, Malik Mumtaz Qadri, who objected to his boss’s campaign to reform the country’s strict blasphemy law. Some suggest that the demonstrations were whipped up by the opposition to frighten the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) government, since Mr Taseer was a member of the party. Others say the army encouraged them, because it likes to remind the Americans of the seriousness of the fundamentalist threat. But conversations with Lahoris playing Sunday cricket in the park beside the Badshahi mosque suggest that the demonstrations expressed the feelings of many. “We are all angry about these things,” says Gul Sher, a goldsmith, of Mr Taseer’s campaign to reform the law on blasphemy. “God gave Qadri the courage to do something about it.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="content-image-float clearfix" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; float: right; clear: both; width: 290px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/04/02/as/20110402_asc397.gif" alt=" " style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; " /&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Pakistani liberals have always taken comfort from the fundamentalists’ poor showing in elections and the tolerant, Sufi version of Islam traditionally prevalent in rural Pakistan. But polling by the Pew Research Centre suggests that Pakistanis take a hard line on religious matters these days (see chart 1). It may be that they always did, and that the elite failed to notice. It may be that urbanisation and the growing influence of hard-line Wahhabi-style Islam have widened the gap between the liberal elite and the rest. “The Pakistani elites have lived in a kind of cocoon,” says Salman Raja, a Lahore lawyer. “They go to Aitchison College [in Lahore]. They go abroad to university…A lot of us are asking ourselves whether this country has changed while our backs were turned.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The response to another death suggests that the hostility towards Mr Taseer may not have been only about religion. Two months later Shahbaz Bhatti, the minister for minorities, was murdered for the same reason. Yet his killing did not trigger jubilation. Mr Taseer’s offence may have been compounded by the widespread perception that he, like most of the elite, was Westernised. His mother was British, he held parties at his house, and he posted photos on the internet of his children doing normal Western teenage things—swimming and laughing with the opposite sex—that caused a scandal in Pakistan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The West in general, and America in particular, are unpopular. It was not always thus. Before the Soviet Union left Afghanistan, around a third of Pakistanis regarded Americans as untrustworthy. Since then, a fairly stable two-thirds have done so. The latest poll on the matter (see chart 1) suggests that Pakistanis see America as more of a threat to their country than India or the Pakistani Taliban. It was carried out in 2009, but anecdotal evidence confirms that the views have not changed. “America is behind all of our troubles,” says Mohammed Shafiq, a street-hawker. That may be because America is thought to have embroiled Pakistan in a war which has caused the surge in terrorism; or because many Pakistanis, including senior army officers, genuinely believe that the bombings are being carried out by America in order to destabilise Pakistan, after which it will grab its nuclear weapons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;a name="four_horsemen" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(8, 82, 109); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Four horsemen&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;From the complex web of factors that have fostered intolerance and violence in Pakistan, it is possible to disentangle four main strands. The first is Pakistan’s strategic position. Big powers have long competed for control of the area between Russia and the Arabian Gulf, and the unresolved tensions with India have dogged the country since its birth in 1947. Nor has Pakistan tried to keep out of its neighbours’ affairs. It was America’s enthusiastic ally in the war to eject the Soviet Union from Afghanistan in the 1980s, which it sold to its people as a &lt;em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;jihad&lt;/em&gt;. “We used religion as an instrument of change and we are still paying the price,” says General Mahmud Ali Durrani, former national security adviser and ambassador to Washington. Pakistan helped create the Taliban in the 1990s to try to exert some control over Afghanistan. And with much trepidation on the part of its leaders, and reluctance on the part of its people, it has supported America in its war against the Taliban over the past decade.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;By trying to destabilise India, Pakistan has undermined its own stability. “When the Soviets went away,” says a senior military officer, “we had a very large number of battle-hardened people with nothing to do. They were redirected towards India. The ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence, the main military-intelligence agency] was controlling them…20:20 hindsight is very good, but this decision was perhaps wrong.” According to the officer, after al-Qaeda’s attacks against America on September 11th 2001 the army decided to wind down the policy. “We started taking them out. But many of them said, ‘Nothing doing.’ They had contact with people in the Afghan &lt;em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;jihad&lt;/em&gt;, and they joined those people again.” Because the Pakistanis were helping the Americans in their fight against the Afghan Taliban, the Pakistani &lt;em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;jihadis&lt;/em&gt; turned their fury on the government.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The second strand is the unresolved question of Islam’s role in the nation. Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Pakistan’s founder, made it clear that he thought Pakistan should be a country for Muslims, not an Islamic country. But since then, according to General Durrani, “Every government that has failed to deliver has used Islam as a crutch.” Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, for example, though fond of a drink himself, banned alcohol. Zia ul Haq, his successor, tried to legitimise his military coup by pledging to Islamise the country.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The relationship between religion and the state is not an abstruse question of political philosophy. A treatise on the Pakistani constitution published in 2009 by Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda’s number two (who is believed to be in North Waziristan), argues that the Pakistani state is illegitimate and must be destroyed. This tract is widely read in the&lt;em style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;madrassas&lt;/em&gt; from which the terrorist groups draw their recruits. Its popularity exercises Qazi Hussein Ahmed, the grand old man of the Jamaat-e-Islami, the most fundamentalist of the political parties, for the Jamaat works within the state, not against it. He argues that Pakistan’s failure to adopt an Islamist constitution “has given the Taliban and such extremist elements a pretext: they say the government will not bow to demands made by democratic means, so they are resorting to violent means.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The third strand is the uselessness of the government. Democracy in Pakistan has been subverted by patronage. Parliament is dominated by the big landowning families, who think their job is to provide for the tribes and clans who vote for them. Except for the Jamaat-e-Islami, parties have nothing to do with ideology. The two main ones are family assets—the Bhuttos own the PPP, and the Sharifs (Nawaz Sharif, the former and probably future prime minister, and his brother Shahbaz, chief minister of Punjab) own the Pakistan Muslim League (N). The consequence is dire political leadership of the sort shown by Asif Ali Zardari, who is president only because he married into the Bhutto dynasty. When Pakistan desperately needed a courageous political gesture in response to the murders of the governor and minister, the president failed even to attend their funerals.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="content-image-float clearfix" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; float: right; clear: both; width: 290px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/04/02/as/20110402_asc457.gif" alt=" " style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; " /&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Pakistan’s rotten governance shows up in its growth rates (see chart 2). In a decade during which most of Asia has leapt ahead, Pakistan has lagged behind. Female literacy, crucial as both an indicator of development and a determinant of future prosperity, is stuck at 40%. In India, which was at a similar level 20 years ago, the figure is now over half. In East Asia it is more like nine out of ten.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Given the government’s failings, it is hardly surprising if Pakistanis take a dim view of democracy. In a recent Pew poll of seven Muslim countries they were the least enthusiastic, with 42% regarding it as the best form of government—though, since the country has spent longer under military than under democratic rule, the army is at least as culpable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The armed forces’ dominance is the fourth strand. Tensions with India mean that the army has always absorbed a disproportionate share of the government’s budget. Being so well-resourced, the army is one of the few institutions in the country that works well. So when civilian politicians get them into a hole, Pakistanis look to the military men to dig them out again. They usually oblige.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Terrorism is strengthening the army further. In 2009 it drove terrorists out of Swat and South Waziristan, and it is now running those areas. Last year its budget allocation leapt by 17%. Nor are the demands on the armed forces likely to shrink. Although overall numbers of attacks are down from a peak in 2009, they have spread from the tribal areas and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), along the border with Afghanistan, to the heartland. Last year saw an uptick in attacks on government, military and economic targets in Punjab and Karachi, the capital of Sindh province. Since then, security has been stepped up; and with the usual targets—international hotels, government buildings and military installations—surrounded by armed men and concrete barriers, terrorists are increasingly attacking soft targets where civilians congregate, such as mosques and markets.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;a name="exporting_terror" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(8, 82, 109); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Exporting terror&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Pakistani terrorism has also gone global. The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, or Pakistani Taliban), announced when it was formed in 2007 that it aimed to attack the Pakistani state, impose sharia law on the country and resist NATO forces in Afghanistan. But last year Qari Mehsud, now dead but thought to be a cousin of the leader, Hakimullah Mehsud, who was in charge of the group’s suicide squad, announced that American cities would be targeted in revenge for drone attacks in tribal areas. That policy was apparently taken up by Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistan-born naturalised American who tried to blow up New York’s Times Square last year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="content-image-float clearfix" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; float: right; clear: both; width: 290px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/04/02/as/20110402_asp004.jpg" alt=" " style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; " /&gt;&lt;span class="caption" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; float: left; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Pakistan’s new face?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;That prompted an increase in American pressure on the army to attack terrorists in North Waziristan. The army is resisting. The Americans suspect that it wants to protect Afghan Taliban there. The Pakistani army says it is just overstretched.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;“We are still in South Waziristan,” insists a senior security officer. “We are holding the area. We are starting a resettlement process, building roads and dams. We need to keep the settled areas free of terrorists. It is not a matter of intent that we are not going into North Waziristan. It is a matter of capacity.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The growth in terrorism in Punjab poses another problem for the army. “What we see in the border areas is an insurgency,” says the officer. “The military is there to do counter-insurgency. What you see in the cities is terrorism. This is the job of the law-enforcement agencies.” But the police and the courts are not doing their job. One suspected terrorist, for instance, a founder member of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, was charged with 70 murders, almost all of them Shias. He was found not guilty of any of them for lack of evidence. In 2009 the ISI kidnapped 11 suspected terrorists from a jail in Punjab, because it feared that the courts were about to set them free.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;So where does this lead? Not to a terrorist march on the capital. Excitable Western headlines a couple of years ago saying that the Taliban were “60 miles from Islamabad” were misleading: first because the terrorists are not an army on the march, and second because they are not going to take control of densely populated, industrialised, urban Punjab the way they took control of parts of the wild, mountainous frontier areas and KPK.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;Yet even though they will not overthrow the Pakistani state, the combination of a small number of terrorists and a great deal of intolerance is changing it. Liberals, Christians, Ahmadis and Shias are nervous. People are beginning to watch their words in public. The rich among those target groups are talking about going abroad. The country is already very different from the one Jinnah aspired to build.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="content-image-full" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 15px; padding-top: 5px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; float: right; clear: both; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;img src="http://media.economist.com/images/images-magazine/2011/04/02/as/20110402_asc455.gif" alt=" " style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 10px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; display: block; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; " /&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="display: inline; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.1em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(192, 192, 192); text-align: left; float: right; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;The future would look brighter if there were much resistance to the extremists from political leaders. But, because of either fear or opportunism, there isn’t. The failure of virtually the entire political establishment to stand up for Mr Taseer suggests fear; the electioneering tour that the law minister of Punjab took with a leader of Sipah-e-Sahaba last year suggests opportunism. “The Punjab government is hobnobbing with the terrorists,” says the security officer. “This is part of the problem.” A state increasingly under the influence of extremists is not a pleasant idea.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1.3em; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; line-height: 20px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "&gt;It may come out all right. After all, Pakistan has been in decline for many years, and has not tumbled into the abyss. But countries tend to crumble slowly. 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font-size: 13px; "&gt;Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi&lt;/a&gt;, who overcame an impaired eye to become a visionary and pioneering captain of the Indian Test team, has died in Dehli at the age of 70. He was suffering from interstitial lung disease. He is survived by his wife Sharmila Tagore, his son Saif Ali Khan and his two daughters Soha and Saba Ali Khan. Tagore, Saif and Soha are prominent actors in India's film industry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;table id="strySidebar" width="310" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" align="right" style="width: 310px; float: right; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 10px; "&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td id="sdbrTopimg" style="font: normal normal bold 13px/normal Tahoma; height: 10px; width: 310px; background-image: url(http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/crvT_blu_310.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: left; background-position: 50% 0%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td id="sdbrMdl" style="width: 294px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 8px; text-align: left; background-image: url(http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/crvM_blu_310.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: 50% 0%; background-repeat: no-repeat repeat; "&gt;&lt;h4 class="sbHdr" id="sbHdr" style="width: 294px; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(30, 102, 167); font-weight: bold; background-image: url(http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/separator_black.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; padding-bottom: 7px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 4px; margin-left: 0px; background-position: 50% 100%; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat; "&gt;Pataudi's career timeline&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;ul class="ulSidebar" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 15px; list-style-position: inside; float: left; font-size: 11px; display: inline; list-style-type: none; "&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;December 13, 1961&lt;/b&gt;: Makes debut against England &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62903.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 11px; "&gt;in Delhi&lt;/a&gt;, scores 13.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;January 10, 1962&lt;/b&gt;: Scores maiden century in his third Test, 113 against England &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62905.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 11px; "&gt;in Chennai&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;March 23, 1962&lt;/b&gt;: Leads India in his fourth Test, &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62913.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 11px; "&gt;in Barbados&lt;/a&gt;, and at 21 is Test cricket's youngest captain.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;February 12-13, 1964&lt;/b&gt;: Makes career-best score, 203 not out against England &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62942.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 11px; "&gt;in Delhi&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;February-March 1968&lt;/b&gt;: Leads India to their first overseas Test in, in Dunedin. India go on to win an away series for the first time, beating New Zealand 3-1.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="liSideBarNoBlt" style="margin-bottom: 6px; margin-left: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; margin-top: 6px; margin-right: 0px; text-align: left; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;January 23, 1975&lt;/b&gt;: Plays his final Test, scoring 9 in each innings against West Indies &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63135.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 11px; "&gt;in Mumbai&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td id="sdbrBtm" style="height: 10px; width: 310px; background-image: url(http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/crvB_blu_310.gif); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; margin-bottom: 15px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; background-position: 50% 0%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; "&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Pataudi played 46 Tests between 1961 and 1975 and was arguably India's greatest captain. He was given the leadership in his fourth Test, when he was 21, in Barbados in 1962, because the regular captain Nari Contractor was in hospital after getting hit on the head by Charlie Griffith. Pataudi was the &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283416.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;youngest Test captain&lt;/a&gt;, a record that stood until 2004. He led India in 40 Tests and had a successful career despite impaired vision in his right eye, which was damaged in a car accident. He also captained Sussex and Oxford University.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;India won nine Tests under Pataudi and it was during his tenure that the team began to believe it could succeed. He advocated the multi-spinner strategy because he believed India needed to play to their strengths and used it to achieve their first overseas Test win, &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63019.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;in Dunedin&lt;/a&gt; in 1968. India went on to record their first &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60422.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;away series victory&lt;/a&gt;, beating New Zealand 3-1. Pataudi was the &lt;i&gt;Wisden&lt;/i&gt; Cricketer of the Year that year.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Pataudi scored 2793 runs at an average of 35 and made six centuries, the biggest of which was an unbeaten 203 against England &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62942.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;in Delhi&lt;/a&gt; in 1964. However, many rate his 75, scored on one leg with one eye, against Australia &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63011.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;in Melbourne&lt;/a&gt; in 1967-68 as his finest. Pataudi retired in 1975 after West Indies' tour of India. After retirement, Pataudi served as a match referee between 1993 and 1996, officiating in two Tests and ten ODIs, but largely stayed away from cricket administration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Pataudi was the ninth and last Nawab of Pataudi until 1971, when the Indian government abolished royal entitlements through the 26th Amendment to the Constitution.He was also the editor of &lt;i&gt;Sportsworld&lt;/i&gt;, the now defunct cricket magazine, and a television commentator in the 1980s but gradually withdrew from an active role, though he remained a strong voice in Indian cricket.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Since 2007, bilateral Test series between India and England have been contested for the Pataudi Trophy, named after his family for their contribution to Anglo-Indian cricket. Pataudi's father, Iftikhar Ali Khan, represented both England and India in Tests. Pataudi had taken ill since his return from England this summer after presenting the Pataudi Trophy to Andrew Strauss at the end of the four-Test series.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;Pataudi was also a consultant to the BCCI from 2007 and part of the first IPL governing council but &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2011/content/story/480466.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;refused&lt;/a&gt; to continue in the role in October 2010, when the BCCI made significant changes to the league following the sacking of Lalit Modi as its chairman. As the spate of controversies increased, Pataudi was the only member of the governing council to &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ipl2010/content/story/456907.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;admit&lt;/a&gt; the body's culpability, saying it "failed in its role to monitor the IPL's administration and be more questioning of decisions taken." In an forceful speech at the 2010 Raj Singh Dungarpur memorial lecture at the Cricket Club of India, Pataudi had said it was the duty of the BCCI to take&lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/492634.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;moral leadership&lt;/a&gt; of the game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;In April this year, Pataudi also took the BCCI &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/513028.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(3, 91, 172); text-decoration: none; font-size: 13px; "&gt;to court&lt;/a&gt; in April this year, claiming the board had not abided by its contract with him while he was a consultant as well as a member of the IPL governing council.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="news-body" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "&gt;At the opening ceremony of the 2011 Champions League Twenty20 today, Ravi Shastri called for a minute of silence in honour of Pataudi.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5870390951034063571?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5870390951034063571/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5870390951034063571' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5870390951034063571'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5870390951034063571'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/09/tiger-passes-away.html' title='The Tiger Passes away...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-9066209149411937236</id><published>2011-09-14T01:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-14T02:51:22.330-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dams'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mismanagement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rains'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Water'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Water Management System'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Floods'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Canals'/><title type='text'>Water is a resource to be used not be scared of...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y3A3a7e768k/TnBrGATCH9I/AAAAAAAAAtA/XvnMKZ2OfJ4/s1600/Badin%2BKB%2BFloods.bmp" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 395px; height: 274px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y3A3a7e768k/TnBrGATCH9I/AAAAAAAAAtA/XvnMKZ2OfJ4/s400/Badin%2BKB%2BFloods.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5652135283253190610" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Incompetence and corruption is the cause of floods. Nothing else...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-9066209149411937236?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/9066209149411937236/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=9066209149411937236' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/9066209149411937236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/9066209149411937236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/09/water-is-resource-to-be-used-not-be.html' title='Water is a resource to be used not be scared of...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y3A3a7e768k/TnBrGATCH9I/AAAAAAAAAtA/XvnMKZ2OfJ4/s72-c/Badin%2BKB%2BFloods.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3964523894236803798</id><published>2011-09-10T14:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-10T14:43:37.469-07:00</updated><title type='text'>10 Years after 9/11... any lessons?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2899600290092285625</id><published>2011-08-29T06:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-29T08:09:43.601-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PPP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sectarianism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shiaism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pathans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zulfiqar Mirza'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Asif Ali Zardari'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Racism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ANP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sindh'/><title type='text'>Zulfiqar Mirza if he was truthful will not take up the Quran Shareef...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hwujdwct-as/TluXhlpv8yI/AAAAAAAAAs4/Ea_SXpY-jc0/s1600/zulfikar-mirza.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hwujdwct-as/TluXhlpv8yI/AAAAAAAAAs4/Ea_SXpY-jc0/s400/zulfikar-mirza.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5646273161137746722" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Only liars do this...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;I am reminded of an event of Qaed e Azam and Gandhi. Gandhi had once said that he wanted to meet The Qaed in secret and would go to any place to meet him with &lt;b&gt;folded arms and bended legs&lt;/b&gt; and head down. To which The Qaed replied we are talking of the destiny of two nations and there can be no secret about this and if you are a straight man come with straight limbs and head up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;If Zulfiqar Mirza believed in himself and if he knew he was a truthful person himself there was no need for him to lift Quran e Shareef on his head. Only liars do it. It is almost impossible to believe his words particularly after&lt;b&gt; his sectarian and racist remarks&lt;/b&gt; all through. In any other country he would be behind bars for "Disaffection", "Slander",  "Defamation", and a Threat to Public Order and Peace. He played his Sindh card and as if that was not bad enough also played the Shia card. Went to the extent of calling himself "badboodar shia". What the hell is he doing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;I would have put him in jail long ago for saying "&lt;b&gt;Pakistan Naa Khappay&lt;/b&gt;" as if he created Pakistan and had the authority to undo it. He is an extremely imbalanced and a temperamental man. Beats me such a person enjoyed so much of power. No wonder he was singularly responsible for the deaths of so many. Widowed so many women and orphened so many children.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;On top of it he says he &lt;b&gt;did not recruit a single person Urdu&lt;/b&gt; speaking from Karachi out of 10,000 appointments. &lt;b&gt;Prejudice &lt;/b&gt;has no limits. Can this person be called fair? You deprive such a large population of employment and food. Make them jobless. Shame on him and the likes of him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;No wonder you don't find any Urdu speaking in the Home Department in any position. &lt;b&gt;From top to bottom they are all Sindies&lt;/b&gt; whether they are fit for it or not. Is this justice? Is this good governance? Shouldn't he be tried and taken to task for this and sent to jail for being so unfair with the citizens he is supposed to serve?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;First Altaf Hussain could never in his wildest imagination tell Zulfiqar Mirza that he won't stop the Qatl e Aam of Pathans (genocide of Pathans) as if he was doing the Qatl e Aam of Pathans. Who would ever say this even if that was the intent. This is total rubbish and garbage Only a fool and an idiot would buy his statement. Urdus are getting killed in Karachi by Pathans and Aman Committee goons of Zulfiqar Mirza, left right and center and day in and day out and this guy enjoys speaking this utter nonsense which will only&lt;b&gt; draw ire&lt;/b&gt;of the Pathans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;He seems to have deliberately said this by design to incite Pathans and start another orgy of bloodshed. Nothing else. He must immediately be arrested, tried and hanged for creating bad blood between two people otherwise living together peacefully. It was totally peaceful until the recent inciting by ANP and its incendiary statements. He seems to be more stupid than he looks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;I hope PPP and Pakistan does&lt;b&gt; not let him go unpunished&lt;/b&gt;. He must carry the maximum penalty.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2899600290092285625?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2899600290092285625/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2899600290092285625' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2899600290092285625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2899600290092285625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/zulfiqar-mirza-if-he-was-truthful-will.html' title='Zulfiqar Mirza if he was truthful will not take up the Quran Shareef...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hwujdwct-as/TluXhlpv8yI/AAAAAAAAAs4/Ea_SXpY-jc0/s72-c/zulfikar-mirza.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3584837288738112260</id><published>2011-08-27T19:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-27T19:39:42.974-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Corruption'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anna Hazare'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anti-Corruption'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Indian Parliament'/><title type='text'>Anna Hazare gets is anti-Corruption bill passed...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-338xOSemvWg/TlmoTSsrgeI/AAAAAAAAAsw/kPH4fhq0xak/s1600/Anna%2BHazare%2Bvictorious%2BAug%2B27%2B2011.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 128px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-338xOSemvWg/TlmoTSsrgeI/AAAAAAAAAsw/kPH4fhq0xak/s400/Anna%2BHazare%2Bvictorious%2BAug%2B27%2B2011.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5645728657275847138" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Finally Anna Hazare gets his way...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Although a straight forward bill. Wonder why Congress Party was balking and made this elderly man to starve for so long.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3584837288738112260?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3584837288738112260/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3584837288738112260' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3584837288738112260'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3584837288738112260'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/anna-hazare-gets-is-anti-corruption.html' title='Anna Hazare gets is anti-Corruption bill passed...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-338xOSemvWg/TlmoTSsrgeI/AAAAAAAAAsw/kPH4fhq0xak/s72-c/Anna%2BHazare%2Bvictorious%2BAug%2B27%2B2011.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-606746385658798245</id><published>2011-08-18T21:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:10:21.285-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baloch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Weapons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PPP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad governance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakhtuns'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ANP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gangs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sindies'/><title type='text'>Who is killing whom and where is governance?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PugH2qyn4hQ/Tk3j_G2STVI/AAAAAAAAAso/U7xmeF8x7k0/s1600/MQM-funeral-KHI-543.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 203px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PugH2qyn4hQ/Tk3j_G2STVI/AAAAAAAAAso/U7xmeF8x7k0/s400/MQM-funeral-KHI-543.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5642416581474667858" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Coffins, coffins, coffins, coffins, coffins is what is Karachi... Nincompoops are governing!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Regionalism, parochialism and nepotism will give these results only...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; font-weight: normal; "&gt;When there were riots in England immediate arrests of 1,500 people were made. And here people are dying endlessly since July no arrests are made. Why are they looking elsewhere and not taking action?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-606746385658798245?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/606746385658798245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=606746385658798245' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/606746385658798245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/606746385658798245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/who-is-killing-whom-and-where-is.html' title='Who is killing whom and where is governance?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PugH2qyn4hQ/Tk3j_G2STVI/AAAAAAAAAso/U7xmeF8x7k0/s72-c/MQM-funeral-KHI-543.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5423869747492886337</id><published>2011-08-16T21:35:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T03:37:17.336-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lokpal Bill'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Corruption'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anna Hazare'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Land Ceiling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vinoba Bhave'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sharia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Boodan Movement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Benami'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Moulana Moududi'/><title type='text'>Where is our Anna Hazare?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m6784mrSnns/TkzrHga-OlI/AAAAAAAAAsg/K6-ModQhkj4/s1600/Vinoba%2BBhave%2Band%2BMoududi.png" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 266px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m6784mrSnns/TkzrHga-OlI/AAAAAAAAAsg/K6-ModQhkj4/s400/Vinoba%2BBhave%2Band%2BMoududi.png" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5642142947383065170" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;First get our Vinoba Bhave then think of Anna Hazare...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;We are 64 years late. When we gained independence there were two religious figures on the horizon one was Acharya Vinoba Bhave and the other was Moulana Moududi. The former for Hindus and the later for Muslims. Now let us examine how they impacted the two new nations made on the basis of a two nation theory.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5423869747492886337?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5423869747492886337/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5423869747492886337' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5423869747492886337'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5423869747492886337'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/where-is-our-anna-hazare.html' title='Where is our Anna Hazare?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m6784mrSnns/TkzrHga-OlI/AAAAAAAAAsg/K6-ModQhkj4/s72-c/Vinoba%2BBhave%2Band%2BMoududi.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-1444339923785310336</id><published>2011-08-16T21:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-16T21:56:41.346-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Balochistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sardars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Balochi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Burning'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Important'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Syed Yousuf Raza Geelani'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nero'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Asif Ali Zardari'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Land Ceiling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Governance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Urgent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tyranny'/><title type='text'>What is important and what is urgent...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--g2jWE6cprs/Tks-e6kHGbI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RDAS9na4PLY/s1600/nero-1.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 267px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--g2jWE6cprs/Tks-e6kHGbI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RDAS9na4PLY/s400/nero-1.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5641671659049392562" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;h1&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;Font Color="#FF0000"&gt;Nero is fiddling while Rome is burning!&lt;/Font Color&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;h1&gt;What is important what is urgent?&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;Our petty minded politicians have no idea of what is &lt;b&gt;important &lt;/b&gt;and what is&lt;b&gt; urgent&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;what can wait&lt;/b&gt;. For example people are being killed in Karachi and they took up the issue of Commissioner-ate System from the middle of nowhere. Looks like they have no idea of what they are doing or must do, forget about important and urgent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Instead of addressing the root cause of the problem, &lt;b&gt;taking action against those who incite violence openly with racist statements&lt;/b&gt; on TV, talk shows and in speeches and moving against the killers and murderers they ignore it. Take no action, let them escape. The result is for months on ends the killings go on - t&lt;b&gt;otal apathy&lt;/b&gt; for problems and law and order. That was one example.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Balochistan&lt;/b&gt; is burning. They have not a clue what to do. They go and rake up the name of Khyber Pahktunkhwa &lt;b&gt;as if that could not have&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;waited&lt;/b&gt;. This appeasement of a race is not a good idea. Tomorrow they could ask for secession and you wouldn't be able to do anything. The name Sarhad was just fine - at least it was not on a race. Punjab is by the five rivers. Sindh by Indus, Balochistan by Bal. KPK is the only province on a race. So why blame poor Hitler for racism?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;ZAB resisted it and so did all the previous administrations stubbornly and not without reason and this government thoughtlessly went ahead and did it only to get ANP support at the Center. These KPK guys don't want any laws and rules for themselves and want to export the same lawless (ilaqa ghair) mindset elsewhere in Pakistan. High time it stopped. It is &lt;b&gt;important&lt;/b&gt; it is&lt;b&gt; urgent&lt;/b&gt;. But they do nothing about it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &lt;b&gt;Urgent&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Important&lt;/b&gt; issue is &lt;b&gt;Balochistan&lt;/b&gt;. The rebellion started not by the people but &lt;b&gt;sardars.&lt;/b&gt; People of Balochistan are with Pakistan 100%. I have interviewed scores of ordinary Balochs. They have confided that they are sick and tired of the tyranny of sardars. They want Pakistan to free them from their hold. Surprisingly the media seems to be sold to the sardars as they do not talk about their tyranny, how they have kept Balochistan and Balochis backward.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The rebellion must be put down by force and the &lt;b&gt;people&lt;/b&gt; appeased, not sardars. Talk to the people not the rebel sardars. Bring in a law to curtail their power that is land. Take land away from them by introducing strict land ceiling and distribute the excess land among the poor in the area.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As for the armed rebellion by the sardars take a cue from how India crushed the much bigger Khalistan movement.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;They do nothing about it. The way these uneducated politicians work reminds me of "Nero is fiddling while Rome is burning". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://history.howstuffworks.com/ancient-rome/nero2.htm"&gt;http://history.howstuffworks.com/ancient-rome/nero2.htm&lt;/a&gt; . Enjoy some history:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px; background-color: rgb(229, 230, 230); "&gt;&lt;div id="ArticleWell" class="module articleBody moduleHeader2 marginClearBottom" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12px; color: black; "&gt;&lt;div class="inner" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 20px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 20px; position: relative; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "&gt;&lt;div class="hd" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); "&gt;&lt;h1 class="articlePageTitle" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;Nero's Fall&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="bd" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 0px; float: right; width: 400px; text-align: center; "&gt;&lt;img width="400" height="268" class="article" src="http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/roman-sam-8.jpg" alt="colosseum 6" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; " /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="credit" style="font-size: 10px; "&gt;Fred Mayer/&lt;a href="http://howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=ancient-rome/nero.htm&amp;amp;url=http://www.gettyimages.com" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 82, 136); "&gt;Getty Images&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="caption" style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;The Flavian Amphitheatre or Colosseum in Rome, built in 70-80 AD, October 1998.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;Mary Francis Gyles offers another interpretation of the story: Nero's fiddling may not have anything to do with music at all, but rather is a &lt;strong style="font-style: inherit; font-weight: bold !important; "&gt;metaphor&lt;/strong&gt; for his ineffectiveness. Fiddling, after all, can also mean that a person is expending energy on something useless or misguided. If the measures Nero took following the fire were perceived as misdirected or inadequate, then saying Nero fiddled while Rome burned takes on a whole new meaning. It's possible that the idea is a relic of propaganda so effective that it's survived 2,000 years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;Although history has cast him in an unfair light regarding the fire, it's difficult to feel sorry for Nero. The emperor has a well-documented history of brutality. He ascended to the throne after his mother killed his uncle; Nero later had her killed. In the face of blame for the great fire, he chose to look for scapegoats. His persecution of the early Christians was the first the religion would endure, and it resulted in the martyrdom of the apostles Peter and Paul, both of whom were executed during the persecutions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;Ultimately, the great fire helped bring Nero down. Discontent with his reign, his &lt;a href="http://science.howstuffworks.com/military-channel.htm" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 82, 136); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://history.howstuffworks.com/ancient-greece/phalanx.htm" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 82, 136); "&gt;infantries&lt;/a&gt; threatened mutiny, and he was declared a public enemy by the Senate. Facing execution, Nero pushed a dagger into his throat and took his life four years after the fire [source: &lt;a href="http://people.howstuffworks.com/nero2.htm#NYTimes" style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 82, 136); "&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; "&gt;For more information on Rome and other related topics, visit the next pages.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-1444339923785310336?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/1444339923785310336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=1444339923785310336' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/1444339923785310336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/1444339923785310336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/nero-is-fiddling-while-rome-is-burning.html' title='What is important and what is urgent...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--g2jWE6cprs/Tks-e6kHGbI/AAAAAAAAAsI/RDAS9na4PLY/s72-c/nero-1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7551346354421719727</id><published>2011-08-15T01:50:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-17T04:50:50.130-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Independence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Balochistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jinnah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Richard Attenborough'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gandhi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nehru'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Qaed e Azam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1947'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='M.A.Jinnah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Two Nation Theory'/><title type='text'>The Two Nation Theory... don't forget it!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-obrCG9vA9G0/TkumQm7HhcI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/fvyRU_-bV08/s1600/jinnah-and-gandhi1.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 230px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-obrCG9vA9G0/TkumQm7HhcI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/fvyRU_-bV08/s400/jinnah-and-gandhi1.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5641785762468300226" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-size: 32px; font-weight: bold; "&gt;When you are not petty and selfish you achieve big...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;The Quaed e Azam was a great man and never petty and selfish, if he were so, he could never have accomplished the big thing which he did. One should read "Legend or Reality" published by Army Press Rawalpindi. If you don't get it, go to the Islamabad library, on the foots of the beautiful Margala Hills not far from the President's house and read the book sitting there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Subsequently we got petty and selfish and see what happened. While one great man with his higher values got a country for the Muslims of the sub-continent the minions later on could not even get a yard of occupied Kashmir despite having a UN Resolution in favor. Nay they with their shortsightedness, selfishness and pettiness lost half of the country with the feudal and tribal mindset playing huge role in the debacle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the greater vision and the big picture and the real cause is forgotten and lost and our ideas degenerate into petty regionalism, parochialism and nepotism etc. we get results as we are getting now. It is getting worse by the day. Hate is ruling us rather love and concern for the Muslim Ummah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether you like the bitter truth of history or not Pakistan was made only and only on the basis of a Two Nation theory. Nothing else. Not for any Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi or a Pathan. Although it was never envisioned as a theocratic state. Muslim State yes. For Muslims yes but it had full guarantees for all minorities. Quaed e Azam envisioned a modern state, he was himself very modern.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The criteria was one and only one. Muslim or Hindu - exactly as Israel, Muslim or a Jew - not an Arab or a Jew. This is a bitter truth of history. Only two nations till recently were made on the basis of a two nation theory one Pakistan and the other Israel. A few years ago it was Aceh and this year South Sudan. You have to swallow this bitter or sweet pill depends on what you believe in - truth or fiction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to re-construct history it is entirely up to you. Then there is no difference between you and the RSS Hindus who want to reconstruct history of India. Libraries worldwide are being filled with this fictitious history. You want to copy them, go ahead. At least they do not leave their co-religionists in the lurch like we want our to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Theories that give birth to a country are never time bound either. Even a Muslim child born today in India and thinks Pakistan is his country, you cannot stop him as per the original vision. Great sacrifices have been made in life, blood and money. All Muslim centers have been destroyed in India like Lucknow, Bhopal or Hyderabad, to name a few at the alter of Pakistan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the religious people at that time objected it was not that they did not want a Muslim Country. It is just that they were concerned that Muslim is in every nook and corner of India, what about him? How will you save him? All did not have the resources to move. Even Quaed e Azam always worried about it. When he was in Ziarath nothing else was on his mind. He cried all the time while Fatima Jinnah gave him napkins for his tears. Read it please.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even the 1940 Allahabad declaration addressed by Allama Iqba called for Muslim majority states. At that time also they did not ask for a Muslim Country. Ask Najam sethi, he will testify to it. Or if you want I will send you the link listen to him yourself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now we can't get petty and selfish and all for our self. Some people's allusion to the thought that the writer (this article was written in response to an article and comments) may not be a Pakistani is a moot point. How does it matter even if he is not a Pakistani, a fact we do not know. Sitting in Dublin he must at best be a Muslim and an Irish. He seems to be a Muslim by his name, it is fine. Even that is not important. The important thing is what is he saying. Right or wrong? Truth or fiction? Whoever he may be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What are you trying to suggest? Let's not stoop low. See what he is writing? There are a lot of historians including Stanely Wolvepert who are not Pakistani so will you say they are all anti-Pakistan? No. That is far too narrow minded a view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have to rise above all this pettiness and selfishness as we have been since the death of another great - Liaquath Ali Khan. In any case there have been only two heroes - The Quaed e Azam and Shaheed e Millath. Barring Suharwardy most others are considered as heroes but villains.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stanley Wolpert in 1983 in fact resurrected and re-built the image of The Quad e Azam after it had taken a battering in the film Gandhi by Richard Attenborough. It was a non-Muslim that came to his rescue. No Muslim or a Pakistani did. "Jinnah of Pakistan" by Stanley Wolpert then restored his image.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The history is full of facts that show the struggle for Muslims of India and no other regional or tribal or racist consideration. Period. Quaed e Azam has repeatedly mentioned a homeland for Muslims of the sub-continent - one of the two nations, now if we we want to twist it for selfish reasons do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The history and objective of Pakistan will not change. But it will have its consequences. The only way of retaining Balochistan and reinforcing the claim on Kashmir is with the same Two Nation Theory. Nothing else. Like it or not.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7551346354421719727?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7551346354421719727/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7551346354421719727' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7551346354421719727'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7551346354421719727'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/08/two-nation-theory.html' title='The Two Nation Theory... don&apos;t forget it!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-obrCG9vA9G0/TkumQm7HhcI/AAAAAAAAAsQ/fvyRU_-bV08/s72-c/jinnah-and-gandhi1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6125784553640846940</id><published>2011-07-30T04:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-06T21:42:52.040-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan Foreign Minister'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hina Rabbani Khar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Khar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fashion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hermes Berkins Purse'/><title type='text'>Hina Rabbani Khar - a model par excellence!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9pacSF9fioE/TjPpNQpb8yI/AAAAAAAAAsA/zm_a0F11H7w/s1600/Hina%2BRabbani%2BKhar.cms" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 281px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9pacSF9fioE/TjPpNQpb8yI/AAAAAAAAAsA/zm_a0F11H7w/s400/Hina%2BRabbani%2BKhar.cms" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5635103972786959138" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Pjw5Q0u7R6Y/TjPoOvjp1XI/AAAAAAAAAr4/LfD-saIHVbg/s1600/Hina%2BRabbani%2BKhar%2Bwith%2Bher%2Bchild.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 276px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Pjw5Q0u7R6Y/TjPoOvjp1XI/AAAAAAAAAr4/LfD-saIHVbg/s400/Hina%2BRabbani%2BKhar%2Bwith%2Bher%2Bchild.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5635102898752443762" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhk5NsuoqaY/TjPntNHeChI/AAAAAAAAArw/6H2vthia9cw/s1600/Khar%2BHina%2BFM%2BPk.bmp" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 389px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhk5NsuoqaY/TjPntNHeChI/AAAAAAAAArw/6H2vthia9cw/s400/Khar%2BHina%2BFM%2BPk.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5635102322571741714" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uW9o-o2IhSY/TjPnHpMOIOI/AAAAAAAAAro/Xdlo1sAqewA/s1600/Khar%2Band%2BSMKrishna.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 170px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uW9o-o2IhSY/TjPnHpMOIOI/AAAAAAAAAro/Xdlo1sAqewA/s400/Khar%2Band%2BSMKrishna.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5635101677272834274" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;h1&gt;&lt;Font Color="#FF0000"&gt;Will at least the charm work this time?&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/Font Color&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nothing has so far worked between these two quarrelsome neighbors I hope her charm works on SM Krishna and the Indian Government. India is a big country with lots of natural beauty places. It is now a an economic power too. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;   I wonder why do they have to hold on to Kashmir very much against the will of the people of Kashmir. Indian democratic credentials are being lost by this forced occupation. Believe me it is no good.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;   Hina Rabbani Khar although a feudal is likely to give the breakthrough one wishfully wonders. But you never know if the time has come to solve the vexed issues she might very well get the credit. Oh she is so good looking, if nothing for her poise and grace lets hope something comes through.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;   The Indian media has gone gaga over her fashion and style lets hope the government succumbs to her charm. Lets hope and pray! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6125784553640846940?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6125784553640846940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6125784553640846940' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6125784553640846940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6125784553640846940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/hina-rabbani-khar-model-par-excellence.html' title='Hina Rabbani Khar - a model par excellence!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9pacSF9fioE/TjPpNQpb8yI/AAAAAAAAAsA/zm_a0F11H7w/s72-c/Hina%2BRabbani%2BKhar.cms' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5121042042150100675</id><published>2011-07-14T03:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-14T03:53:03.428-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leadership'/><title type='text'>In times like these great leadership is the need of the hour...</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Now who will give this leadership?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;sdfd&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5121042042150100675?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5121042042150100675/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5121042042150100675' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5121042042150100675'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5121042042150100675'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/in-times-like-these-great-leadership-is.html' title='In times like these great leadership is the need of the hour...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7477553930685456332</id><published>2011-07-14T02:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-14T02:49:56.515-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zulfiqar Mirza'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Law and Order'/><title type='text'>Zulfiqar Mirza's irresponsible statements... why is he not arrested?</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Zulfiqar Mirza is the cause of so much damage and loss of life...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;He has been consistent. From the time he took over in Sindh I have yet to see a sensible statement from this guy. He always makes statements that are downright racist. He seems to be a psychic case. His response is never normal and such a person was home Minister?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7477553930685456332?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7477553930685456332/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7477553930685456332' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7477553930685456332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7477553930685456332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/zulfiqar-mirzas-irresponsible.html' title='Zulfiqar Mirza&apos;s irresponsible statements... why is he not arrested?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2848526318226813136</id><published>2011-07-09T13:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-09T13:27:50.253-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='South Sudan'/><title type='text'>South Sudan - lessons!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2848526318226813136?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2848526318226813136/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2848526318226813136' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2848526318226813136'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2848526318226813136'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/south-sudan-lessons.html' title='South Sudan - lessons!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3236085714308707223</id><published>2011-07-08T07:55:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-11T20:16:51.021-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PPP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kati Pahadi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China shop'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Violence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Internal Migration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Qasba Colony'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ANP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ilaqa ghair'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakhtuns in Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bull'/><title type='text'>Bull in the China Shop... Pathans of Karachi...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lNhmlbjXIN4/ThcapaP-ShI/AAAAAAAAArg/Vckl7C5FCFw/s1600/Pakhtun%2BBull%2Bin%2Ba%2BChina%2BShop.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 400px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 325px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5626995558146001426" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lNhmlbjXIN4/ThcapaP-ShI/AAAAAAAAArg/Vckl7C5FCFw/s400/Pakhtun%2BBull%2Bin%2Ba%2BChina%2BShop.jpg" /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;h1 style="display: inline !important; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lNhmlbjXIN4/ThcapaP-ShI/AAAAAAAAArg/Vckl7C5FCFw/s1600/Pakhtun%2BBull%2Bin%2Ba%2BChina%2BShop.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;h1 style="display: inline !important; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Bull in the China Shop... Karachi Pathans?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;And no city can take an influx of 25,000 daily for years on, particularly since 2007. It just does not have the resources to accommodate so many people. No water, no food, no roads, no sewage, no power, no housing, how shall we take care of them? Plus no jobs and then they put up a red flag and become tools in he hands of their political agents - the land mafia that just wants to steal and grab land as much as they can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0px;"&gt;WhyWh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;Plus they are all armed to the teeth. "Hathyar hamara zevar hai" says their leader Shahi Syed. It is like &lt;span&gt;a bull in the China Shop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;. Can any thing be spared? Please spare our commercial capital.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;Develop KPK so that they do not go to Karachi and destroy the city of lights.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;And who are these people? The local Pathans we know and been living for ages in peace and harmony together? No they are not. They are basically Afghans which Zia Ul Haq imported 40,00,000 of them. Isn't it time to make them go back and force guys like Shahi Syed etc. to give a lesson on brotherly relations rather than preaching hatred.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He should also be stopped from making incendiary and hate statements on TV! The government should arrest him, try him and punish him for disaffection between compatriots. Time to tell things as they are. No more beating around the bush. People are dying in large numbers. Does any body care? Is anybody listening?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; border-collapse: collapse; " class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;I know one thing. Those who cannot give law and order, peace and prosperity to the people who they are supposed to serve, &lt;b&gt;have lost the right to rule&lt;/b&gt;, have lost the right to enjoy the trappings of power, have lost the right to draw salaries paid from our taxes. If they are taking salaries and enjoying perks like houses, cars etc. is all haram. They are not doing justice to their job. If they can't do a job they must in all fairness pack up. Res&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;And no city can take an influx of 25,000 daily for years on, particularly since 2007. It just &lt;b&gt;does not have the resources to accommodate so many people&lt;/b&gt;. No water, no food, no roads, no sewage, no power, no housing, how shall we take care of them? Plus no jobs and then they put up a red flag and become tools in he hands of their political agents - the land mafia that just wants to steal and grab land.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;Why don't they do this in their own area thousand miles away from where they come. They have made their own are&lt;b&gt;"Ilaqa Ghair"&lt;/b&gt;where no law and order is possible. No development means no jobs. So they just come to Karachi with the same mindset and want to make Karachi also a Lawless Area. I am just &lt;b&gt;calling a spade a spade&lt;/b&gt;. It is like that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;Plus they are all &lt;b&gt;armed to the teeth&lt;/b&gt;. "Hathyar hamara zevar hai" says their leader Shahi Syed. It is like&lt;b&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;a bull in the China Shop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;. Can any thing be spared? Please spare our commercial capital. &lt;b&gt;Develop KPK &lt;/b&gt;so that they do not go to Karachi and destroy our city of lights.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3236085714308707223?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3236085714308707223/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3236085714308707223' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3236085714308707223'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3236085714308707223'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/butll-in-china-shop-pathans-of-karachi.html' title='Bull in the China Shop... Pathans of Karachi...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lNhmlbjXIN4/ThcapaP-ShI/AAAAAAAAArg/Vckl7C5FCFw/s72-c/Pakhtun%2BBull%2Bin%2Ba%2BChina%2BShop.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2853405320738058626</id><published>2011-07-07T14:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-07T19:49:41.517-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pathans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='KPK'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Internal Migration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pashto'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Racism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Urdu'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ANP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ilaqa ghair'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lawlessness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MQM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakhtuns'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peshawar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakhtoons'/><title type='text'>What is happening in Karachi?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eeoZJRjLLVU/ThZUABsoZ2I/AAAAAAAAArY/P68t5K2v-m8/s1600/Orangi%2BTown%2BVio.bmp" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 250px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eeoZJRjLLVU/ThZUABsoZ2I/AAAAAAAAArY/P68t5K2v-m8/s400/Orangi%2BTown%2BVio.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5626777143878379362" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Why can't they pin point at the exact problem?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why is Karachi allowed to be destroyed like this. It is totally unprotected. As seen from three days some people have occupied vantage positions and are firing indiscriminately. Can't the police go there, catch them and bring them to justice? One can clearly see who is killing whom. The political leaders, governor Mr. Nisar Khoro don't seem to have a clue. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The guys like Haji Adeel and Shahi Syed who come from very far don't give a damn about Karachi and openly make racist comments and incite people to violence for their petty political gains. They have made their own area as Ilaqa Ghair - lawless area. And no lawless area can have development. And when you cannot have development you won't have jobs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;So they don't go to nearby Islamabad or Lahore because they are not allowed there but go straight to Karachi where the Karachiites do not stop them. The result is they manifest their lawlessness there. Their leaders say Weapons is their jewellery. Hathyar hamara zevar hai - Shahi Syed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But the people of Karachi are shy of blaming the Pakhtun racist mindset while Pakhtun ANP leadership does not hesitate in making openly racist comments and allegations. They never talk of co-existence. Even if one family lives in a remote area in Sindh they will have a red flag of ANP hoisted. If they are so racist and do not want to mix with people of Karachi why do they come from so far and make life or Karachiites difficult?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Where are the law enforcement agencies? What are they getting paid for? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Islamabad should stop migration of 25,000 Pakhtoons on a daily basis to Karachi that is taking place since 2007. The city cannot take such an influx. It just doesn't have the water, food, sewage, roads, power and housing to support them. They go and occupy lands creating more problems. Who is going to please stop this lawlessness?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Is there any thing we can do besides praying?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2853405320738058626?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2853405320738058626/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2853405320738058626' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2853405320738058626'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2853405320738058626'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/what-is-happening-in-karachi.html' title='What is happening in Karachi?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eeoZJRjLLVU/ThZUABsoZ2I/AAAAAAAAArY/P68t5K2v-m8/s72-c/Orangi%2BTown%2BVio.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2445290527099180789</id><published>2011-07-07T13:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-07T19:12:16.025-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Korea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Trafficking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atom Bomb'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='North Korea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nukes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Proliferation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Centrifuges'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abdul Qadeer Khan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Merchant of Menace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nuclear Scientist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='US'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='AIPAC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dubai'/><title type='text'>Nuclear Scientists must be kept under wraps...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YgKyPoVuer0/ThYTP0aBpHI/AAAAAAAAArQ/YwLgD40sFN0/s1600/aq-khan.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 307px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YgKyPoVuer0/ThYTP0aBpHI/AAAAAAAAArQ/YwLgD40sFN0/s400/aq-khan.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5626705946932782194" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nuclear Scientists must be kept under wraps... Top Secret!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;Nuclear scientists are always kept under wraps as state secrets. That is what all civilized nations do. Do you know the nuclear scientists of Israel, South Africa, Russia, UK, France, USA, India and so on? No. If somebody says yes, he has extremely little or no knowledge. Where was the need for us to make a hero of a scientist, swell his head and expose him like this? I am amazed he flew to Dubai that year 48 times. There are only 52 weeks in an year. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;He was lucky Musharraf was at the helm then, that he did not hand him over, shudder to think what other govts. could have done. Now this expose. This whole AQK saga sucks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pakistans-nuclear-bomb-maker-says-north-korea-paid-bribes-for-know-how/2010/11/12/gIQAZ1kH1H_story.html"&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pakistans-nuclear-bomb-maker-says-north-korea-paid-bribes-for-know-how/2010/11/12/gIQAZ1kH1H_story.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2445290527099180789?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2445290527099180789/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2445290527099180789' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2445290527099180789'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2445290527099180789'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/07/nuclear-scientists-must-be-kept-under.html' title='Nuclear Scientists must be kept under wraps...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YgKyPoVuer0/ThYTP0aBpHI/AAAAAAAAArQ/YwLgD40sFN0/s72-c/aq-khan.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6577573693311277380</id><published>2011-06-24T23:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-08T07:32:43.881-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Solution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Muslim majority areas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2001'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Missed Opportunities'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gaddafi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Libya'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tony Blair'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1965'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cross border terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1962'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir Problem'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ayub Khan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9/11'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='State Terrorism'/><title type='text'>Kashmir problem and solution...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OGRPE8uJlNo/TgXv-zr-YWI/AAAAAAAAArI/n1qaUX62VM0/s1600/Kashmir%2Blake.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OGRPE8uJlNo/TgXv-zr-YWI/AAAAAAAAArI/n1qaUX62VM0/s400/Kashmir%2Blake.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5622163572147511650" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;h1&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;Font Color="#FF0000"&gt;The bag is full of missed opportunities...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/Font Color&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;You can't abandon Kashmir now after so much loss of life. It is like &lt;b&gt;admission&lt;/b&gt; of the fact that we were just not up to it, that we were on the wrong just because we did not pursue it as it should have been at the international level. Our Government, our diplomacy, our media management internationally totally failed us. We never had our priorities right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;We &lt;b&gt;missed many chances&lt;/b&gt; of getting it. First opportunity was offered in &lt;b&gt;1962&lt;/b&gt; when China had attacked India. Ayub Khan missed it. Second &lt;b&gt;1965 &lt;/b&gt;it was done without taking Kashmiris in confidence. They made a public issue in the world of "infiltration" and whatever little we won on the battlefield was lost on the table. Third was as late as 2001 when &lt;b&gt;US needed us&lt;/b&gt; soon after 9/11. We should have &lt;b&gt;bargained&lt;/b&gt; for help on &lt;b&gt;Kashmir&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;a href="http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2007/10/musharrafs-mistakes-2-continued.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204); "&gt;http://thinker-&lt;wbr&gt;thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.&lt;wbr&gt;com/2007/10/musharrafs-&lt;wbr&gt;mistakes-2-continued.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2007/10/musharrafs-mistakes-2-continued.html" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 204); "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Earlier Kargil was not an opportunity but a debacle. Yet &lt;b&gt;media mileage&lt;/b&gt; could have been got from it. Lemonade out of a lemon. We lost Siachen by just not being there (laziness) and India went and occupied it. It was aggression by India. &lt;b&gt;We never made an issue in the world press&lt;/b&gt; of Indian &lt;b&gt;aggression&lt;/b&gt;. It all adds up against us. We never act in time and love to blame someone else for our inaction and gross mistakes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;In the meanwhile we have got hundreds of thousands killed in Kashmir. &lt;b&gt;We did not move the world&lt;/b&gt;. We did not tell effectively of India's State Terrorism. Instead India let the world know that we were doing "&lt;b&gt;Cross Border Terrorism&lt;/b&gt;". We did not have the sense to counter that in the first place that it was not a border but just a &lt;b&gt;line of control&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;We did not tell the world why India has a million forces in a small place like Kashmir and not in UP or Bihar for instance. This is &lt;b&gt;proof &lt;/b&gt;of the fact that &lt;b&gt;all is not well there&lt;/b&gt;. People don't want you there. You are ruling against their will by force. We did not repeatedly tell the world and make an issue of it. Finally it is the public pressure internationally we create that matters. If we don't who is to blame.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;Our diplomats and Press Attaches are of so low quality that all they want is their salaries and perks. Period. &lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;They just do not do their job&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. They want to enjoy foreign postings. In contrast, Indians in their embassies and consulates do their job. You see the results in the media of the world as well as in the media of most Muslim Countries. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;For instance for 40 years Indians have had a total sway on Saudi Arabian and UAE media. All stories that matter are carried from an Indian point of view, not Pakistan's. Tell me when all (non-Muslims included) are reading it, hearing it, what perception does it create? &lt;b&gt;Positive for India &lt;/b&gt;and negative for Pakistan. It hurts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;As if that was not bad enough we had this &lt;b&gt;Mid-Eastern issue based terrorism&lt;/b&gt; in Pakistan. While the issue is Mid-Eastern, &lt;b&gt;not a single&lt;/b&gt; Mid-Eastern country is afflicted by it as we are.&lt;span&gt; Wo log tho saf nikal gaye aur hum phans gaye&lt;/span&gt;. Now that has put a huge spanner in the wheel we don't understand. It has impacted the &lt;b&gt;Kashmir problem&lt;/b&gt; quite adversely.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;We can't give up Kashmir&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; because Pakistan was created on the basis of &lt;b&gt;Muslim majority areas&lt;/b&gt;. Kashmir was and is a Muslim majority area. Giving it up is negating our own existence. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Secondly&lt;/b&gt; we have a responsibility towards the people of Kashmir who are divided. We have to unite them. They have suffered a lot and we have to alleviate their suffering. If we are selfish we will not. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Thirdly&lt;/b&gt; all rivers come from there, we cannot allow India to decide when and how much water we should get. &lt;b&gt;Last&lt;/b&gt; but not the least, tourism. India is pocketing all the &lt;b&gt;dollars&lt;/b&gt; and&lt;b&gt; Euros&lt;/b&gt; while that money belongs to the &lt;b&gt;Kashmiris&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;We don't exploit the &lt;b&gt;opportunity &lt;/b&gt;because at the appropriate forums and time our leadership &lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;does not say what it should&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Democracy is much touted about. They went to war in Iraq apparently for democracy. Tell the world "Why not a &lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;democratic Solution&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;" in Kashmir as &lt;b&gt;Tony Blair &lt;/b&gt;once said. We did not catch it, build on it and &lt;b&gt;cash it&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;Now recently they slammed &lt;b&gt;cruise missiles on Libya&lt;/b&gt; under the pretext that Gaddafi is &lt;b&gt;killing the citizens&lt;/b&gt;. Why did we not go and make a big hue and cry that &lt;b&gt;India is also killing similarly&lt;/b&gt; and for God's sake &lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;go and save them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Get a million army out of there. If India does not listen, use force.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px; "&gt;If we the &lt;b&gt;sovereign Pakistan&lt;/b&gt; does not raise this issue, why others will? We kept mum and &lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;missed yet another opportunity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. This opportunity still exists. Make use of it even now and stop blaming others for our own woes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;Opportunities keep coming our way, we miss them all and love to blame others!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6577573693311277380?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6577573693311277380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6577573693311277380' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6577573693311277380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6577573693311277380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/06/kashmir-problem-and-solution.html' title='Kashmir problem and solution...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OGRPE8uJlNo/TgXv-zr-YWI/AAAAAAAAArI/n1qaUX62VM0/s72-c/Kashmir%2Blake.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6433728531907056635</id><published>2011-06-24T15:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-24T15:52:14.487-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hiding faces'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Taliban'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tahreek e Taliban Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Terrorists'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Criminials'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Convicted'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Show face of criminals'/><title type='text'>Show the faces of criminals please...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-InfR0yiw4wc/TgUUCTsCsLI/AAAAAAAAAq4/H-28DEs7vjc/s1600/Criminals%2Bhidden.bmp" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 381px; height: 304px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-InfR0yiw4wc/TgUUCTsCsLI/AAAAAAAAAq4/H-28DEs7vjc/s400/Criminals%2Bhidden.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5621921739719225522" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;Why hide the faces of the criminals...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If he gets away by court for lack of hard evidence he will not even have the humiliation of being arrested so that it is deterrence for future budding criminals. It beats all logic not showing their faces. Show them. The whole world does it. Very recently remember that IMF Chief Strauss Kahn, every body knows his face now. I always wondered why don't they show faces. Show it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6433728531907056635?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6433728531907056635/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6433728531907056635' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6433728531907056635'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6433728531907056635'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/06/show-faces-of-criminals-please.html' title='Show the faces of criminals please...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-InfR0yiw4wc/TgUUCTsCsLI/AAAAAAAAAq4/H-28DEs7vjc/s72-c/Criminals%2Bhidden.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6706604576935009621</id><published>2011-06-21T16:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-22T04:39:04.343-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PPP'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Asif Ali Zardari'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mian Nawaz Sharif'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nawaz League'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PMLN'/><title type='text'>Clash of the titans... Zardari replies to Nawaz diatribes...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsmFMjIp0tI/TgExL1iTSgI/AAAAAAAAAqo/tAwdadZ3ePI/s1600/zardari-.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 300px; height: 250px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsmFMjIp0tI/TgExL1iTSgI/AAAAAAAAAqo/tAwdadZ3ePI/s400/zardari-.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5620827889354361346" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The fight has begun "&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;Molvi&lt;/span&gt; Nawaz Shareef should learn to be a real tiger".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;Zardari had shown lots of patience for three years. Today he burst out in response to what Nawaz Shareef blurted out in Kashmir. And he came on hard. Nawaz Shareef somehow does not forget to attack Musharraf whether the occasion warrants it or not. Wonder why did he make a deal and went away for so long. Today he made scathing attacks on Zardari.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me no admirer of Zardari is now forced to acknowledge him as a more astute politician more in touch with the ground reality. He is hoisting his flags every where and moving forward. He has this capacity not to rub people on the wrong side quite the opposite of Mian Nawaz Shareef. From where he has acquired this aplomb I have no idea. &lt;b&gt;Khuda jab Husn detha hai tho nazakath aa hi jaathi hai&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zardari lashed him as a &lt;b&gt;paper tiger&lt;/b&gt;. He went on to say if he has forgotten politics that he is welcome to consult him in private or public. It think Nawaz Shareef will put an end to his diatribes against him and Musharraf for good. He will if he is a true politician not if he is the product of the establishment of Zia ul Haq who tried to subdue and kill PPP for 11 years. Couldn't. &lt;a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/22/nawaz-trying-to-pit-govt-against-army-zardari.html"&gt;http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/22/nawaz-trying-to-pit-govt-against-army-zardari.html&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=17404"&gt;http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=17404&lt;/a&gt;            &lt;a href="http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=33295"&gt;http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=33295&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6706604576935009621?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6706604576935009621/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6706604576935009621' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6706604576935009621'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6706604576935009621'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/06/clash-of-titans-zardari-replies-to.html' title='Clash of the titans... Zardari replies to Nawaz diatribes...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UsmFMjIp0tI/TgExL1iTSgI/AAAAAAAAAqo/tAwdadZ3ePI/s72-c/zardari-.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3431352606152767013</id><published>2011-06-21T14:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-21T16:06:34.132-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Money laundering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Black money'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Swiss Accounts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Corruption'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><title type='text'>Pakistan $200 billion can come back...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DZ4ECX86MNM/TgENDbMEYJI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/UmndkzoITMg/s1600/dollars2-300x201.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 300px; height: 201px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DZ4ECX86MNM/TgENDbMEYJI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/UmndkzoITMg/s400/dollars2-300x201.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5620788162424234130" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Now people cannot hide their ill-gotten wealth in Switzerland...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Pakistan can get its money back...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some countries have got some of their wealth back. Statesman has reported that the Swiss Parliament has passed the &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: georgia, 'palatino linotype', palatino, 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;“Return of Illicit Assets Act” (RIAA). "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: georgia, 'palatino linotype', palatino, 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;On October 1, the Swiss Parliament passed the historic “Return of Illicit Assets Act” (RIAA)-a significant law that will make it possible for many developing countries, like Pakistan to recover the billions of dollars shifted to the Alpine state by unscrupulous individuals and companies."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: georgia, 'palatino linotype', palatino, 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;That is good news for Pakistan in particular. We have our $200 billion stashed away in Swiss Accounts money that was plundered from the Pakistan exchequer and deposited there. Now is the opportunity for Pakistan to punish the offenders and get back the money. This is a few times the debt Pakistan owes to the world. All our national debts would be cleared and money would be available for development.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia, 'palatino linotype', palatino, 'times new roman', times, serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); "&gt;Will someone do something please?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt; Is any one who matters listening please?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); "&gt; Read all: and comment on this blog.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thestatesmen.net/news/swiss-return-of-illicit-assets-act-pakistan-can-get-billions-back/"&gt;http://www.thestatesmen.net/news/swiss-return-of-illicit-assets-act-pakistan-can-get-billions-back/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3431352606152767013?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3431352606152767013/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3431352606152767013' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3431352606152767013'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3431352606152767013'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/06/pakistan-200-billion-can-come-back.html' title='Pakistan $200 billion can come back...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DZ4ECX86MNM/TgENDbMEYJI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/UmndkzoITMg/s72-c/dollars2-300x201.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6270057689948285819</id><published>2011-06-03T16:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-21T16:40:58.192-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PNS Mehran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Attack'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abbotabad'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cantonments'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Karachi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Town Planning'/><title type='text'>Lessons from PNS Mehran attack... move cantonments out of the cities...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4bJ3jSCWE8k/TgEiMoSCxGI/AAAAAAAAAqY/Ny-KN6xtPrg/s1600/PNS-Mehran-Karachi.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 226px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4bJ3jSCWE8k/TgEiMoSCxGI/AAAAAAAAAqY/Ny-KN6xtPrg/s400/PNS-Mehran-Karachi.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5620811410301961314" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Move cantonments out of town and rename Abbotabad...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;150 years back when Karachi was a sleeping fishing village these cantonments were fine not any more... City has grown all around it... inconvenience for people and the army/navy and airforce all...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;Now Karachi is a mega polis sprawling hundreds of square miles. The population is about 20 million. The need to move cantonments out of towns can hardly more emphasised. The cantonments are every where and large tracts are occupied. While it is inconvenient for the forces it is also most inconvenient for the people. They can very easily be moved at least 50 km away from the city North West of Karachi. Vast empty areas are available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;And these areas must not be made concrete jungles but developed into green belts, forests and parks as we see in the West right in the middle of the city. Some parts can be developed though for civilians but by the best town planner in the world invited to compete and bid. Lets make this city unique and one of the best in the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Army, Navy and Air Force would also be safe in a lot better place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Will write in detail later Inshallah.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6270057689948285819?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6270057689948285819/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6270057689948285819' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6270057689948285819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6270057689948285819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/06/lessons-from-pns-mehran-attack-move.html' title='Lessons from PNS Mehran attack... move cantonments out of the cities...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4bJ3jSCWE8k/TgEiMoSCxGI/AAAAAAAAAqY/Ny-KN6xtPrg/s72-c/PNS-Mehran-Karachi.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-4108632153236888452</id><published>2011-05-27T14:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T14:14:17.995-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CIA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ISI'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Religious Extremism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hillary Clinton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Binladen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike Mullen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alqaeda'/><title type='text'>US bashing will not help Pakistan...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K6TTiPN8JbQ/TeASyaY-h8I/AAAAAAAAAqE/f370Rx3bL4M/s1600/PAKISTAN-US-DIPLOMACY-2%2BHillary.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 260px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K6TTiPN8JbQ/TeASyaY-h8I/AAAAAAAAAqE/f370Rx3bL4M/s400/PAKISTAN-US-DIPLOMACY-2%2BHillary.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5611505792990480322" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;There was not a smile, it was plain talking, stop bashing US and churning up conspiracy theories...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;The surprise visit of The Secretary of State is of great significance under the circumstances. She echoed the sentiments of lots of thinking Pakistanis. She spoke of Pakistan solving its own problems. She spoke of corruption. More later time permitting.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-4108632153236888452?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/4108632153236888452/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=4108632153236888452' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4108632153236888452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4108632153236888452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/05/us-bashing-will-not-help-pakistan.html' title='US bashing will not help Pakistan...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K6TTiPN8JbQ/TeASyaY-h8I/AAAAAAAAAqE/f370Rx3bL4M/s72-c/PAKISTAN-US-DIPLOMACY-2%2BHillary.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-8704030035467966928</id><published>2011-05-23T15:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-21T16:09:35.693-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Navy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tahreek e Taliban Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PNS Mehran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Terrorism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Osama Binladin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alqaeda'/><title type='text'>PNS Mehran attack... Pakistan defense compromised!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cEvFrMc3jEc/TgEklrZRZrI/AAAAAAAAAqg/yarnbf46vT4/s1600/Terrorists-Attack-PNS-Mehran-karachi-chief-of-pakistan-navy-staff-11.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 251px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cEvFrMc3jEc/TgEklrZRZrI/AAAAAAAAAqg/yarnbf46vT4/s400/Terrorists-Attack-PNS-Mehran-karachi-chief-of-pakistan-navy-staff-11.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5620814039657572018" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tLWAxGtK-14/Tdr3atV-GrI/AAAAAAAAAp8/talx6IttWSk/s1600/PNS-Mehran.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 290px; height: 230px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tLWAxGtK-14/Tdr3atV-GrI/AAAAAAAAAp8/talx6IttWSk/s400/PNS-Mehran.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5610068324063779506" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;High time at least now realize who is our enemy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;div style="font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Now what Imran Khan, Hamid Mir, Munawar Hasan, Prof. Ibrahim, Gen. Hameed Gul and the likes of him have to say? Will they still continue to be the political spokesmen of the devils?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;Time to think and reflect. What more do you want? Will you wait till Pakistan is blown up? When will we put the finger on the real problems. This is not the first attack on Army and Navy. But Navy is most vulnerable. &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13514033"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13514033&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now this reminds me of an event long ago when a member of the JI was exultant at the fact that "hamari zahan ke log bahut bhar gaye hain Navy mein" I was shocked and dismayed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So now it transpires how well infiltrated this mindset is inside our army, navy and air force. Will someone do something please?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had written a few days back: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; "&gt;..................................................&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Please for God’s sake forget what happened with Binladen. He is dead. He is gone although not his ideology. US had repeatedly warned us “either you get him or we will”. We did not and they got them. Period.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 22px; "&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Now just ensure that it doesn’t happen again. Now catch hold of Aiman Al Zawahiri before US does and correct our image. They are not going to trust us before action lest we tip off the accused. This is their genuine concern.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the way &lt;b&gt;media is creating a frenzy and fomenting hatred against US&lt;/b&gt; which is our donor and helper in so many different ways is very dangerous. Beggars are no choosers Sir. This hatred will do nothing good for Pakistan and Muslims of the world. &lt;b&gt;Do not pander to the demands of the terrorists in whatever they guise they may appear in.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The Urdu media and the Electronic media is just not doing the right thing &lt;b&gt;by making a hero out of a villain&lt;/b&gt;. Terrorism will fetch us nothing. One bit of policy will not change. Palestine is not the issue for Pakistan but Kashmir is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;So let the world know of Kashmir and how they are suffering at the hands of the Occupation Army. Those are our issues. Not Binladen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Binladen challenged our sovereignty by being here without our consent and US did because quite unawares we were harboring an accused terrorist. Now for God’s sake go and get the other desired foreign nationals – Arabs and Afghanis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Come clean and let the world know that we do not aid or abet terrorism by silence and inaction. Otherwise be prepared for more Abbottabads&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "&gt;..................................................................................................................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Now today this is the height.&lt;br /&gt;All this is because of siding with the terrorists one way or the other. See what is the result. We cannot defend ourselves. It is an intelligence failure and security failure of untold proportions. The top officers incharge must immediately  resign if not kicked out most unceremoniously and given exemplary punishment. Some are even talking of court martial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;We lost the most expensive Navy Air Crafts the Orions that were obtained with great difficulty by Musharraf, that were big deterrents for our enemies. Now they must be rejoicing obviously. We are vulnerable now. If some submarine comes in the Arabian Sea and launches an attack we cannot detect it now. Remember now who is going to pay $280,000,000 or more to buy such equipment and how are you going to get it past the US Congress? Ask Imran Khan, Hameed Gul, Munawar Hasan and the like. Even some are defending these killers listen to the guys like Raheemullah Yousuf Zai who come on TV and sort of defended them. Do they get paid for it or are shit scared and have to speak against their will one wonders. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;Read this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;The &lt;b&gt;Pakistani media did the damage&lt;/b&gt; through their Urdu Columns and TV anchors. Scared for their lives they pander to the machinations of the terrorists. And the readers and audience are sold to these nincompoop self assumed journalists. They are muddling people's minds with their constant bombardments of baseless &lt;b&gt;conspiracy theories&lt;/b&gt; all the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;Leading&lt;b&gt; the pack&lt;/b&gt; is that&lt;b&gt; Hamid Mir &lt;/b&gt;who got his credentials from that first interview of Osama bin laden. Then &lt;b&gt;Dr. Shahid Masood&lt;/b&gt; is just the same, so is Talat Hussain and almost all with the exception of Najam Sethi and a little moderated Kamran Khan.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="im" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;All exhort people to somehow &lt;b&gt;empathize with the terrorists&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;foment US hatred&lt;/b&gt; with &lt;b&gt;no benefit to Pakistan&lt;/b&gt; in any way. No body talks of the need for&lt;u&gt; Law and Order, Development Plans, Land Reforms&lt;/u&gt; long long overdue.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Fed up with PPP, if you look at Nawaz Shareef he is on a &lt;b&gt;one point agenda&lt;/b&gt; to punish Musharraf and nothing else. Murghi ki taang ek. Janab ko kuch aur soojhtha hee nahee. He goes to Badeen and foments hatred against people of Karachi and exhorts Sindhis to rise against the people of Karachi. I had happened to listen to this live on Geo. Is this leadership?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;A leader unites people not divides them&lt;/b&gt;. A leader is all &lt;b&gt;love and affection and forgiveness not hate and revenge&lt;/b&gt;. Is this we are taught and are going to teach our children? No. Don't do it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;He again came to Karachi and had a dialogue with those who want to break up Pakistan. They don't talk of&lt;b&gt; the two nation theory that is the basis for Pakistan&lt;/b&gt; but talk of regionalism "Ilaqawariath". They talk of Taassub not fair-play and equal opportunity for all. They never ever talk of merit. They don't talk of eliminating the feudal system while themselves being it's worst victims.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;You see how mum he is over this terrorism issues too. Is he one with them? I hope not. But he aids and abets them by silence. You rarely see him condemning the terrible blasts and killings all over Pakistan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="im" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); "&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Media was freed by Musharraf and he becomes its first casualty&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;b&gt;America gives us aid and America is its casualty&lt;/b&gt;. Are we a nation of thankless nay "peechay se chura ghonpne walay" people? What are we? please define.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "&gt;&lt;b&gt;If Pakistan does the job&lt;/b&gt; which it should, there is no need for USA to do the job. We have to do it for our own reasons, our own benefit and our own survival and on our own terms. US has all along said "If Pakistan is not able to do it, we will". They did it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now at least &lt;b&gt;lets go after the terrorists lest they take over from inside&lt;/b&gt;. Don't be afraid of them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;But don't let it happen like the Lal Masjid affair. Media &lt;b&gt;chided the government for inaction&lt;/b&gt; and when they did it they &lt;b&gt;changed sides&lt;/b&gt;and sympathised with the gun totting terrorists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is not &lt;b&gt;any body other than the state totting a gun a terrorist&lt;/b&gt;? Lets face it. You cannot side with anybody fighting the State with arms under any excuse. And who ever talks in the media directly or indirectly criticizing the action done in &lt;b&gt;national interest&lt;/b&gt; by the State must be apprehended tried and duly punished.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; "&gt;&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;div&gt;How else will you stop &lt;b&gt;irresponsible journalism&lt;/b&gt; that helps the anti-state elements in the end.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wonder where are we heading? or is it "&lt;b&gt;Pakistan ka Khuda Hafiz&lt;/b&gt;"?.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Rest later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mr. Arif Khan wrote&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; "&gt;Do you know how hard Bush Tried to have these P-3Orions approved by Congress for Musharraf ..He barely made it!!!! at a cost of $279 Million a copy they are loaded with Sophisticated Electronics and can track any Submarine without a 200Sq Mile area ..and the Talibans blew two of them up with Rocket Launchers...This is a SAD day for Pak Navy these indigents only know how to Destroy not Build? They also knocked down the ancient Buddah Statues and 75% of Pakistanis Support them..in my Opinion Pakisatn is FINISHED, it has too many problems and a incompetant govt to deal with them  Do you think these Valuable assets will ever be replaced by USA under these Circumstances? Hell NO!! India is laughing so hard that i can hear them all the way here... This is indeed a Sad day!!!  $600 Million worth of near new Aircraft destroyed by ANIMALS  Arif Khan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-8704030035467966928?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/8704030035467966928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=8704030035467966928' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/8704030035467966928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/8704030035467966928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/05/pns-mehran-attack-pakistan-defense.html' title='PNS Mehran attack... Pakistan defense compromised!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cEvFrMc3jEc/TgEklrZRZrI/AAAAAAAAAqg/yarnbf46vT4/s72-c/Terrorists-Attack-PNS-Mehran-karachi-chief-of-pakistan-navy-staff-11.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-3831282645863782645</id><published>2011-05-01T23:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-02T00:17:17.619-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Osama Dead'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Obama'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Binladin Dead'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Osama Binladin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alqaeda'/><title type='text'>Osama Binladen Dead...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4d2TmfVM6mk/Tb5RsZiLJmI/AAAAAAAAAps/RmPQsjWibHE/s1600/Osama%2Bbin%2BLadin%2BDead.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 294px; height: 220px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4d2TmfVM6mk/Tb5RsZiLJmI/AAAAAAAAAps/RmPQsjWibHE/s400/Osama%2Bbin%2BLadin%2BDead.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5602004809705793122" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;Khas kam jahan pak...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Obama addresses the world...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://vodpod.com/watch/7637852-president-obama-announces-osama-bin-laden-is-dead?u=dandelionsalad&amp;amp;c=dandelionsalad"&gt;http://vodpod.com/watch/7637852-president-obama-announces-osama-bin-laden-is-dead?u=dandelionsalad&amp;amp;c=dandelionsalad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://vodpod.com/watch/7637852-president-obama-announces-osama-bin-laden-is-dead?u=dandelionsalad&amp;amp;c=dandelionsalad"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/05/02/vo.bin.laden.compound.fire.geotv?hpt=C2"&gt;http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/05/02/vo.bin.laden.compound.fire.geotv?hpt=C2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13256791"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13256791&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www2.wnct.com/news/2011/may/01/5/new-osama-bin-laden-dead-ar-996049/"&gt;http://www2.wnct.com/news/2011/may/01/5/new-osama-bin-laden-dead-ar-996049/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/us-and-nato-imperialism-in-south-asia-the-developing-pakistan-quagmire-by-fazal-rahman-ph-d/"&gt;http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/us-and-nato-imperialism-in-south-asia-the-developing-pakistan-quagmire-by-fazal-rahman-ph-d/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If he was in Pakistan he should have been captured by us. He would be at least alive today. This is another black spot on the performance of Pakistan. It is not good for Pakistan and US and European nations. We should have done it and claimed the credit at least. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We possibly could have caught him alive. We kept denying his existence in Pakistan. Now you see what is it worth at all in not catching him in time and alive. This is very bad for Pakistan that we did not do it when he was so close in the capital - in Abbotabad.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now internationally Pakistan is on the backfoot again and on a slippery wicket you know what it does to you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-3831282645863782645?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/3831282645863782645/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=3831282645863782645' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3831282645863782645'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/3831282645863782645'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/05/osama-binladen-dead.html' title='Osama Binladen Dead...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4d2TmfVM6mk/Tb5RsZiLJmI/AAAAAAAAAps/RmPQsjWibHE/s72-c/Osama%2Bbin%2BLadin%2BDead.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5087740624312718195</id><published>2011-04-22T12:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-22T12:53:52.636-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Actor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Plays'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Moin Akhtar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Acting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sub-continent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Entertainer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Drama'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mass Communication'/><title type='text'>Moin Akhtar passes away...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KXFYYwyck6k/TbHbjRiGvgI/AAAAAAAAApk/Ytv_-pIB2BM/s1600/losstealkmain.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 375px; height: 346px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KXFYYwyck6k/TbHbjRiGvgI/AAAAAAAAApk/Ytv_-pIB2BM/s400/losstealkmain.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5598497210846592514" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ah Moin Akhtar, the greatest actor of the subcontinent is no more...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;Different people may have different views but for me he was the best actor in the sub-continent beating all else hollow. You give him any role he will excel in it. He studied the characters so well and then will live the role. I only wish more people follow his commitment to excellence. I can only say Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilaihi Rajioon. Not only Pakistan but the world has lost one of the greatest entertainer of all time. But he went too early. So sad.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Remember what great dramas he has given us which will continue to entertain for generations to come.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;An excerpt: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial; line-height: 16px; font-size: small; "&gt;Anwar is a playwright, poet, television host, satirist and painter. He is widely recognised for using satire and wit to shed light on current social issues for all ages. The man behind Studio Dhai (Studio 2:30) and Studio Ponay teen (Studio 2:45) is best known for his plays Angan Tehra and Mehrunnissa, which won him critical acclaim.&lt;br /&gt;Moin, recipient of the Sitara-i-Imtiaz – Pride of Performance awarded by the president of Pakistan – has had a large fan following in the subcontinent for over three decades now. A stage actor, comedian, TV host, writer, singer, director and producer, he is perhaps most famous for his impersonations. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial; line-height: 16px; font-size: small; "&gt;Although Urdu is the national language of Pakistan, it is spoken in many parts of India and is widely understood in all Hindi-speaking regions of the country.&lt;br /&gt;With &lt;b&gt;command over several languages including English, Sindhi, Punjabi, Bengali and Gujarati&lt;/b&gt; – Moin is known for his faultless portrayal of characters from everyday life. His most memorable performance was in the role of a female TV artist, Rozie, which was an adaptation of Tootsie featuring Dustin Hoffman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial; line-height: 16px; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial; line-height: 16px; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Some Clips:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial; line-height: 16px; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thepakistani.tv/i/2129/pakistani-tv-comedy-shows-and-sitcoms/loose-talk-on-majooda-khalat.htm"&gt;http://www.thepakistani.tv/i/2129/pakistani-tv-comedy-shows-and-sitcoms/loose-talk-on-majooda-khalat.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5087740624312718195?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5087740624312718195/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5087740624312718195' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5087740624312718195'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5087740624312718195'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/04/moin-akhtar-passes-away.html' title='Moin Akhtar passes away...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KXFYYwyck6k/TbHbjRiGvgI/AAAAAAAAApk/Ytv_-pIB2BM/s72-c/losstealkmain.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2417286056192645967</id><published>2011-04-02T13:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-02T14:58:08.445-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Yuvraj Sing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='World Cup Final'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gautam Gambir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sehwag'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India wins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sachin Tendulkar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Murlitharan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mumbai'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='M.S. Dhoni'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Srilanka'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wankhde Stadium'/><title type='text'>India wins the ICC World Cup 2011 ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vuOVnnvT8Zs/TZeExa9uOtI/AAAAAAAAApE/tFJPlBM_WEY/s1600/ICC%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011%2BChampions%2BIndia.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 254px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vuOVnnvT8Zs/TZeExa9uOtI/AAAAAAAAApE/tFJPlBM_WEY/s400/ICC%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011%2BChampions%2BIndia.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5591083446990420690" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;When you do not have a comfortably sailing to the final you win it...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;Congratulations to India for winning the world cup 2011. In the end they played better and deserved to win despite their lucky escape in the semi against Pakistan. Forget that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;They played like champions today. Despite loosing two early top gun wickets of Sehwag and Tendulkar they played most methodically to reach the target. Hats off to the Gautam Gambir and Virat Kohli partnership. Then Dhoni played a master stroke, he came himself instead of Yuvraj who could have or could not have played, to lead from the front and see how responsibly he played without being bogged down unlike Misbah neither did he play any non-cricketing stroke like Afridi. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is something to learn from these boys - unity of purpose, planning and commitment.&lt;br /&gt;I hope our team was watching how they planned their batting up to the point they won. No rash non-cricketing strokes, no T20 strokes and no bogging down unlike our boys on the fateful day.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Srilanka made terrible mistakes by not taking some good bowlers like Ajanta Mendis etc. they had no good pace attack and the best spinners were not playing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now coming to the main point. Pakistan topped the tabled and is bundled out in 2011. In 1992 they got into the knockout because Australia beat West Indies and Pakistan sneaked in and went on to become the World Champions 1992. Similarly in 2009 Pakistan won the T20 Championship after being humbled earlier and were about to be eliminated. But when it sneaks in with utmost difficulty it wins the final. But when we top the table we never win. This is an observation. Now you ponder over it. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Same with India, they sneaked in with great difficulty after loosing to South Africa and tieing with England and were not exactly comfortable with others. They beat the minnows. Their most difficult match was against Pakistan. Seems like they kept the best for the final and bravo they did the job.  &lt;a href="http://samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=30243"&gt;http://samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=30243&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Winning-WC-is-proudest-day-of-my-life-Sachin/videoshow/7853426.cms"&gt;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Winning-WC-is-proudest-day-of-my-life-Sachin/videoshow/7853426.cms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ndtv.com/album/detail/the-cup-of-joy-10136?fromphotowidget"&gt;http://www.ndtv.com/album/detail/the-cup-of-joy-10136?fromphotowidget&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Shahid-Afridi-praises-Dhonis-captaincy/videoshow/7829997.cms"&gt;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Shahid-Afridi-praises-Dhonis-captaincy/videoshow/7829997.cms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rest later.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2417286056192645967?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2417286056192645967/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2417286056192645967' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2417286056192645967'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2417286056192645967'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/04/india-wins-icc-world-cup-2011.html' title='India wins the ICC World Cup 2011 ...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vuOVnnvT8Zs/TZeExa9uOtI/AAAAAAAAApE/tFJPlBM_WEY/s72-c/ICC%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011%2BChampions%2BIndia.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7858517646952075925</id><published>2011-03-30T16:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-01T16:55:47.404-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tendulkar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bowling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Batting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shoaib Akhtar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Umar Gul'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Semifinal World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shahid Afridi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mohali'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India v Pakistan'/><title type='text'>Why did Pakistan loose the semifinal?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kk-VDvTSnUg/TZPS9I-FvvI/AAAAAAAAAo8/Q9H0As8KRsY/s1600/Afridi%252C%2BTendulkar%252C%2BSehwag.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 310px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kk-VDvTSnUg/TZPS9I-FvvI/AAAAAAAAAo8/Q9H0As8KRsY/s400/Afridi%252C%2BTendulkar%252C%2BSehwag.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5590043510318677746" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;When you make Himalayan Blunders no amount of prayers help...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;What are those Himalayan Blunders? Let me be brief.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Not playing the most feared bowler in the world - Shoaib Akhtar. Umar Gul should have been dropped and Shoaib taken. Is there any match between these two bowlers? None. Shoaib is a class apart. He runs through the batting line up and when people avoid getting out to him they give wickets to others. In either case team benefits.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Umar Gul giving away too many runs - 69 runs in 8 overs without any wicket. Afridi gave him many sessions even in the end to have a wicket in his name but he only succeeded in conceding more runs to India. One wonders why Omer Gul is the most favourite with Shahid Khan Afridi at the expense of the team.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bad field placement and hence leaking runs without a deep third man. Omar Gul was never bowling to the field. Over 20 runs were lost like that.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Very poor fielding at least 30 runs could have been saved.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Four catches were dropped of Tendulkar to the extent he was embarrassed. His luck was such that even after being given out the decisions were reversed thanks to the review.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Such abysmal batting. Hafeez had no business to be out so irresponsibly. Where was the need of a non-cricketing shot? He must be dropped as Kapil Dev was once dropped at his peak by Gavaskar for an irresponsible stroke.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Asad Shafeeq had no business to cut a straight ball from that arrogant Yuvraj.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;There was no need to bring upon themselves the pressure which they brought upon themselves. Misbah while trying to save wickets consumed far too many runs.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mohammed Yousuf was sorely missed in the middle and batting flopped miserably. What was Younis doing if he could not bat? And Afridi and A.Razzak? Why were they taken? I guess to bat.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kamran Akmal continued to be as bad as possible behind the stumps.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What about power play? It should have been taken when the captain Afridi and vice captain were at the crease.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div&gt;In short Pakistan could not have had a better chance to make it to the final and possibly the cup. This is too much and it has broken the hearts of millions around the world. Now we have to listen for the next four years that India has never lost to Pakistan in a world cup. Disgusting.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7858517646952075925?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7858517646952075925/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7858517646952075925' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7858517646952075925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7858517646952075925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-did-pakistan-loose-semifinal.html' title='Why did Pakistan loose the semifinal?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kk-VDvTSnUg/TZPS9I-FvvI/AAAAAAAAAo8/Q9H0As8KRsY/s72-c/Afridi%252C%2BTendulkar%252C%2BSehwag.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-2438481382985773324</id><published>2011-03-20T19:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-29T15:05:59.892-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='100 mph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='160 kph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Waqar Younus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Best bowler'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Naseem Ashraf'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fast bowling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Best fast bowler ever'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PCB'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shoaib Akhtar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afridi'/><title type='text'>Shoaib Akhtar - The fastest and the best fast bowler the world has produced...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Io1y1oZohN4/TYa45fNUlhI/AAAAAAAAAo0/CHfmlYj_4qE/s1600/2-28-2011%2BShoaib%2BAkhtar%2Bin%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 241px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Io1y1oZohN4/TYa45fNUlhI/AAAAAAAAAo0/CHfmlYj_4qE/s400/2-28-2011%2BShoaib%2BAkhtar%2Bin%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5586355685569107474" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The world's greatest bowler ever born!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Injustice done to the best bowler in the world...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;We will miss him. I still hope and pray he does not retire and continues to play. If not the charm of cricket will be gone. If he goes he will be going without realising his full potential. He was extreme talent but we did not have extreme talent in management to match him. Poor management of Cricket in Pakistan has broken hearts of players and spectators alike.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How dare Naseem Ashraf the then PCB head, not give a Central Contract to a player of Shoaib Akhtar stature. Naturally he protested. Which later became cause of bitter controversy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Talent has to be well taken care of and nurtured as is done every where in the world. So why not in Pakistan. I am not condoning indiscipline. He later was very good after realising his mistakes. We are all human we make mistakes. We must learn to forget and forgive. Now this guy was doing a lot and giving his best. His potential should be fully realised for Pakistan's sake.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Now it seems Waqar Younus and Afridi have haunted him out. It was a sad day for Pakistan when he announced his retirement. We should have a movement to bring him back. President Asif Ali Zardari should ask him to renounce retirement and be available for the national team. He should do what President Gen. Zia did to Imran Khan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Shoaib Akhtar is the most feared bowler the world has seen. Even a half fit Shoaib Akhtar is more than all bowlers put together as Intikhab Alam had said. He would send a shiver down the spines of the world's best batsmen when he would be on the run up to bowl them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;He was the first to achieve speeds beyond 100 miles per hour and he consistently did that. In trying to play him out we got they gave away wickets to other bowlers. We benefited both ways.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;However much the victory against Australia was cherished millions were sad that they did not see Shoaib Akhtar bowl on that day. I hope and pray they do not drop him in the subsequent matches. If they do then we know what is going on in the team.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tnf32_wxZnc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-2438481382985773324?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/2438481382985773324/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=2438481382985773324' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2438481382985773324'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/2438481382985773324'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/shoaib-akhtar-fastest-and-best-fast.html' title='Shoaib Akhtar - The fastest and the best fast bowler the world has produced...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Io1y1oZohN4/TYa45fNUlhI/AAAAAAAAAo0/CHfmlYj_4qE/s72-c/2-28-2011%2BShoaib%2BAkhtar%2Bin%2BWorld%2BCup%2B2011.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-4231424235060203562</id><published>2011-03-19T17:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-19T17:33:48.748-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Australia'/><title type='text'>Pakistan breaks the winning streak of Australia in the World Cup...</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Pakistan beats Australia Convincingly...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-4231424235060203562?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/4231424235060203562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=4231424235060203562' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4231424235060203562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4231424235060203562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/pakistan-breaks-winning-streak-of.html' title='Pakistan breaks the winning streak of Australia in the World Cup...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-6450201450588834080</id><published>2011-03-19T17:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-19T17:34:33.587-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Palestine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='UK'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='UN Security Council Resolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Libya'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gaddafi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Israel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arabs'/><title type='text'>UK and Allies strike Libya... UK at its mischief again!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pnYP19onmR0/TYVIduEsu7I/AAAAAAAAAos/t2vFkBqEBak/s1600/Libya.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 247px; height: 204px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pnYP19onmR0/TYVIduEsu7I/AAAAAAAAAos/t2vFkBqEBak/s400/Libya.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5585950588244114354" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;If The West is sincere and serious then they should solve decades old problems...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is most unfortunate - UK again leading in the killing of people in the Arab World. UK never stops. It created Israel right in the heart of Arab Land and we see no solution in sight with Israel's atrocity and continuously defying the world community.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is Britain that has remained the culprit throughout. It is not international community but UK in disguise. It was Mrs. Thatcher who forced Reagan to act in the first Gulf War. It was Tony Blair who trapped Mr. George Bush. No same thing under one alibi or the other they kill Arabs and Muslims. How many have they killed in Iraq? Where they are suffering they just keep talking and do nothing viz. Israel and India in Kashmir. There they see no oppression and democracy is forgotten.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Remember the Muslim World and The Arab World does not see it with kindness. If the West was sincere it would have done something to restrain Israel in Palestine and restrained India in Kashmir and the rest of the country not to be so ruthless and murderous there. People are dying and democracy goes to the dogs. Cant the West see this? Will of the International Community is just a hogwash for their hidden ambitions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is their interests. They are not interested in the people but are driven by the desire to weaken the Arab World so that tomorrow it is no threat to Israel.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/allies-launch-libya-force-as-gaddafi-hits-rebels/2011/03/19/ABKqmkw_video.html"&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/allies-launch-libya-force-as-gaddafi-hits-rebels/2011/03/19/ABKqmkw_video.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-6450201450588834080?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/6450201450588834080/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=6450201450588834080' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6450201450588834080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/6450201450588834080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/uk-and-allies-strike-libya-uk-at-its.html' title='UK and Allies strike Libya... UK at its mischief again!'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pnYP19onmR0/TYVIduEsu7I/AAAAAAAAAos/t2vFkBqEBak/s72-c/Libya.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-7051795459729499926</id><published>2011-03-08T02:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-08T03:51:10.566-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='George W. Bush'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Search'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Binladin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Americans'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Donald Rumsfeld'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Afghanistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Osama Binladin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fortress'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BBC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='USA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='UK'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='9/11'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tora Bora'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ayman AlZawahiri'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alqaeda'/><title type='text'>BBC says AlQaeda never existed...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;In case you have missed the documentary here it is:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/pZ_HlmP1aZk" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_HlmP1aZk"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ_HlmP1aZk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-7051795459729499926?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/7051795459729499926/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=7051795459729499926' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7051795459729499926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/7051795459729499926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/bbc-says-alqaeda-never-existed.html' title='BBC says AlQaeda never existed...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/pZ_HlmP1aZk/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-4531104699738132580</id><published>2011-03-01T09:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T09:37:54.234-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Zaheer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tendulkar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Munaf'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bresnen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Strauss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='England'/><title type='text'>What a match? What a chase? What a tie?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_r4GcG3SrNc/TW0ulCm5rdI/AAAAAAAAAok/N5HeVIrx6CE/s1600/Strauss.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 261px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_r4GcG3SrNc/TW0ulCm5rdI/AAAAAAAAAok/N5HeVIrx6CE/s400/Strauss.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5579166727271984594" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;England needed to be there. But this is the super charged World Cup 2011. Expect any thing.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;The batting was good by India but England were no where behind. Tendulkar ofcourse is Tendulkar. He built the platform for India no wonder. Bresnen five wicket haul ensured India did not pile up further. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The reply was equally sprited. Kevin Pieterson was wonderful and Munaf's catch was doubly superb that ended a class innings. The best caught and bold ever as they said.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Strauss and Bell amazing too. Did not think they could play so good. While cruising at will, Zaheer applied brakes along with Munaf. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But the last guy Shahzad of England's six brought England too close. Yet England's victory was not to be. Although some think technically England won. They lost less wickets and India did not bat the full 50 overs. It batted for 49.5 overs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/content/story/503292.html?CMP=NLC-DLY"&gt;http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/content/story/503292.html?CMP=NLC-DLY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-4531104699738132580?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/4531104699738132580/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=4531104699738132580' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4531104699738132580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/4531104699738132580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-match-what-chase-what-tie.html' title='What a match? What a chase? What a tie?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_r4GcG3SrNc/TW0ulCm5rdI/AAAAAAAAAok/N5HeVIrx6CE/s72-c/Strauss.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-96733836422775184</id><published>2011-02-12T06:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-12T07:29:53.050-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Indian Occupation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Egypt'/><title type='text'>Is there something to learn from Egypt?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fMRLZJPkGfg/TVanVyTgcRI/AAAAAAAAAoc/XiqWIxxkomA/s1600/Egypt%2BFeb%2B11%2B2001%2Ba%2Bnew%2Bera.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 289px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fMRLZJPkGfg/TVanVyTgcRI/AAAAAAAAAoc/XiqWIxxkomA/s400/Egypt%2BFeb%2B11%2B2001%2Ba%2Bnew%2Bera.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5572825581640249618" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Yes there is a lot to learn from Egypt as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rest later.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-96733836422775184?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/96733836422775184/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=96733836422775184' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/96733836422775184'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/96733836422775184'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/02/is-there-something-to-learn-from-egypt.html' title='Is there something to learn from Egypt?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fMRLZJPkGfg/TVanVyTgcRI/AAAAAAAAAoc/XiqWIxxkomA/s72-c/Egypt%2BFeb%2B11%2B2001%2Ba%2Bnew%2Bera.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-431673891095881104</id><published>2011-02-11T11:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-12T07:02:24.173-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Revolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Facebook'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Husni Mubarak'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tahrir Square'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mohammed Al Baredaie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Egypt'/><title type='text'>Egypt makes history...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KP--vWaMSd0/TVacAwA_rLI/AAAAAAAAAoU/ARH0QeGTHbg/s1600/Egypt%2Bfreed.bmp"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 258px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KP--vWaMSd0/TVacAwA_rLI/AAAAAAAAAoU/ARH0QeGTHbg/s400/Egypt%2Bfreed.bmp" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5572813125620575410" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The first Technology Revolution... and peaceful!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;History made today. 18 days of struggle and 30 years of reign gone. Look at the lady here. She is crying with happiness. In just 18 days the change has come. The important thing is to believe something can be done. And it does. This as a matter of fact the beginning of the revolution.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/11/live-blog-feb-12-egypt-protests"&gt;http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/11/live-blog-feb-12-egypt-protests&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=41540868�"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=41540868&amp;amp;#41538438&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-431673891095881104?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/431673891095881104/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=431673891095881104' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/431673891095881104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/431673891095881104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/02/egypt-makes-history.html' title='Egypt makes history...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KP--vWaMSd0/TVacAwA_rLI/AAAAAAAAAoU/ARH0QeGTHbg/s72-c/Egypt%2Bfreed.bmp' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5727822739867466612</id><published>2011-02-05T15:31:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-06T00:19:01.396-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Asif'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Salman Butt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC Tribunal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='morality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ODI World Cup 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Spot fixing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Amir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Betting'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ICC Cricket'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='PCB'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Match fixing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ejaz Butt'/><title type='text'>Stop corruption in Cricket...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3eCRUz9HI/AAAAAAAAAoE/urINvdhW6yc/s1600/Butt%2BAsif%2BAmir.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 193px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3eCRUz9HI/AAAAAAAAAoE/urINvdhW6yc/s320/Butt%2BAsif%2BAmir.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5570352444718969970" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Shame... Taking moral responsibility Ejaz Butt must resign immediately!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is nothing to write about. Heads down with shame. Sorry, so long as corruption is accepted is society it will go on. The young boys and girls must get the message that corruption is not acceptable in any circumstance. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Getting banned for 5 years is no small thing. The careers are finished for good. What great talent gone. Butt the class opener and a good enough captain gone, the McGrath of Pakistan - Asif gone and a budding talent Amer gone too. But let this be a lesson for any future adventurers. I hope not only the Cricketing Community but the whole world is listening.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the meanwhile some one has to take moral responsibility. And if Ejaz Butt has just a bit of conscience  still left in him he will at least resign without asking even if he does not offer an apology to the nation. This will be good for the morale of the cricket squad for the 2011 Cricket World Cup.  &lt;a href="http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/499614.html"&gt;http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/499614.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5727822739867466612?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5727822739867466612/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5727822739867466612' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5727822739867466612'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5727822739867466612'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/02/stop-corruption-in-cricket.html' title='Stop corruption in Cricket...'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3eCRUz9HI/AAAAAAAAAoE/urINvdhW6yc/s72-c/Butt%2BAsif%2BAmir.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-5629684320523312380</id><published>2011-02-05T14:38:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-05T15:21:25.011-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir Day'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kashmir'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='India'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='War'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nuclear'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pakistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dispute'/><title type='text'>Why the demonstrations on Kashmir do not become news in international media?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3ZwW0O6gI/AAAAAAAAAn8/Ak3UMF4KDck/s1600/Kashmir%2BDay%2B2-5-2011.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 193px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3ZwW0O6gI/AAAAAAAAAn8/Ak3UMF4KDck/s320/Kashmir%2BDay%2B2-5-2011.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5570347738908781058" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;b&gt;If we continue like this we may be celebrating Kashmir day for ever...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;Today is February 5 again it is a Kashmir day in Pakistan. We have been having it for over six decades now. There have been good enough demos in Azad Kashmir. I thought this will be reported in BBC, CNN, ABC or Skynews just to give a few examples.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;They did cover the Egyptian demonstrations and even covered a demo on Belgrade. But failed to cover a dispute simmering between the two nuclear armed neighbors. Why is it so? I want reasons other than conspiracy theories and victim psychosis please.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As I see it, the Kashmiris and Pakistan do not make a professional effort in this direction. Their PR is at the lowest ebb. They should ensure through Media, Pressure Groups, Public Relations, Diplomacy and High Profile Statements by Heads of States that News Agencies pick Kashmir events, report and discuss it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Our reputation is so bad and commitment so low that besides Pakistan internally it is no news even when people die of atrocities by occupying forces.  It is barely reported in Pakistan media too. Why? Because no body cares. Dawn did not even report it on 5th Feb.  &lt;a href="http://www.dawn.com/latest-news"&gt;http://www.dawn.com/latest-news&lt;/a&gt; . The News reported barely: &lt;a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=10676"&gt;http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=10676&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;At every forum 24x7 round the year we must talk of a &lt;b&gt;Democratic Solution&lt;/b&gt; so Tony Blair used to say. But do the rulers make any statements or have a diplomatic and media thrust to do that. No. Diplomats abroad just enjoy their salaries and perks without doing their jobs. Why? They just do not care. If people are dying let them. Who cares?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hey guys get your act together if at all you want Kashmir issue resolved. Make news and ensure it is reported world-wide on a daily basis. Without creating world awareness and pressure on a sustained basis the world is not going to move.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3676084536298685636-5629684320523312380?l=thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/feeds/5629684320523312380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3676084536298685636&amp;postID=5629684320523312380' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5629684320523312380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3676084536298685636/posts/default/5629684320523312380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinker-thinkingoutofthebox.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-demonstrations-on-kashmir-do-not.html' title='Why the demonstrations on Kashmir do not become news in international media?'/><author><name>Thinker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02423713419183066489</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UHoMsP7Eo38/TU3ZwW0O6gI/AAAAAAAAAn8/Ak3UMF4KDck/s72-c/Kashmir%2BDay%2B2-5-2011.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3676084536298685636.post-1656609098259548438</id><published>2011-01-30T19:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-08-08T05:39:20.639-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kufr'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Landlords'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vadera'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Choudhry'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Poverty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='KPK'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Landless'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Punjab'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Blochistan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sardar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Land Ceiling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sajda'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Feudalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Land Reforms'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sindh'/><title type='text'>Feudalism giving rise to kufr...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/b9mHaA2rMoQ" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  &gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;H1&gt;Feudalism - pushing people to the limits of kufr...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/H1&gt;Watch and be amazed. These are poor slaves of the Choudhries, Vaderas, Sardars or one like them. The feudals are not only doing what they are but also leading people to kufr by making them kiss their feet and hands. The video is self explanatory what can one say. Feudalism manifest. The guy does not stop them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The people should only fear Allah and fear the law not a person. The way they are revering the guy sitting and some behind him, is mind boggling. I wouldn't say they are doing sajda but they are definitely kissing the guy's feet and hands. Why? He is just another mortal. It is the fear of retribution that makes the poor guy do what he does. This should not happen. Only the State should be supreme not some individuals. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I wonder why the religious parties do not take the lead in this issue instead of becoming the political spokesmen of the terrorists and make excuses for the killings and refusing to condemn the terrorism that has engulfed us. Why does this issue miss their notice? Is it deliberate or out of fear I demand to know.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Even the richest man of today cannot have so much land. So how did these people acquire so much land? The Brits gave them to keep people down and under control. That was colonial governance. Once the colonial power left we should have corrected the system. Most unfortunately we didn't. Ayub Khan thought of it as he writes in his book in his last days when it was too late. His successors were feudals themselves and visionless dictators.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pervez Ilahi once said in some interview that he made a survey and discovered that in Punjab 96% people had land no more than 12.5 acres while the rest 4% enjoy land the size of which you cannot imagine. This video is testimony of the state of people on these lands.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;When will our legislators think of bringing in laws to banish slavery and such acts if nothing to save people from the fire of hell? Wonder how feudalism can go? If our neighboring country one day younger can do it why not us? Are they any better intellectually than us? I think not. The difference is in sincerity, vision and love for your own people and the country.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;All political parties must have on their manifesto Land Ceiling Act. Mr. Nawaz Sharif should concentrate on such issues instead of instigating one people to rise against the other. Such abusive, divisive and vendetta politics will not work. He is not being seen in good light of late. Be positive man. Do something good of far reaching consequence. This applies to other leaders too. Focus on structural reforms not cosmetic. Big people do big things like this and take every body along not exclude.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;One way to abolish feudalism is by bringing in Land Ceiling Act and implement it by limiting rural land holding to no more than say 50 to 60 acres per head (India is now thinking of making it 18 according to Dawn). At one stroke feudalism will go. Feudalism is possible only by large land holdings so take land away from them and distribute among the poor. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Save the people, save the country and save them from kufr too. 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